From: A Grudko Date: Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:27am Subject: RE: Privacy Activists Brace for White House Push to Augment -----Original Message----- From: G P [mailto:telos888@y...] > Golly gee I keep forgetting to mention that both Rumsfeld and Cheney are members of the Council on Foreign Relations, as was George H. W. Bush. Where there's a coup, there's a CFR member nearby. ;) And John F Kerry and Bill Clinton according to the CFR's 1992 Membership Roster. Relevance to the TSCM list and it's intelligence theme - very limited. Oh, since we are off topic anyway, my caption for the Inauguration photo JMA posted is "Monica, I love what ya've done with your hair" Andy Grudko (British), DPM, Grad IS (South Africa) MIS/Grudko Associates, Est. 1981. PSIRA reg. No. 8642 www.grudko.com , agrudko@i... Pretoria HO (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax) Branches: Sandton (+27 11) 465 9673 - 465 1487 (Fax) Johannesburg (+27 11) 781 7206 - 781 7207(Fax) Mid Rand (+27 11) 318 1451 - 318 6846(Fax) Cellular (+27) 82 778 6355 - ICQ 146498943 SACI(Pres) SASA, IPA, WAD, CALI, UKPIN, IWWA. "When you need it done right - first time" --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.816 / Virus Database: 554 - Release Date: 2004/12/14 10708 From: Andy Moore Date: Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:51pm Subject: Mains Mover/Current Carrier A firm called Devolo, based in Germany, is now marketing a device which modulates stereo, high bandwidth audio onto the power cabling in order to distribute music etc around households - it's not hard to see other uses for such a device! It en/decodes audio, at 44KHz CD quality, onto OFDM carriers, across the HF band, on to cabling for subsequent conversion a couple of hundred metres away. Probably quite obvious on a SA but also very easy to deploy.... http://www.devolo.com/co_EN/produkte/dlan/mldlanaudio.html Andy M 10709 From: kondrak Date: Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:01am Subject: Re: Analysis of the Skype Protocol Good! At 19:49 1/20/2005, you wrote: > From ./ today: > >http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~library/TR-repository/reports/reports-2004/cucs-039-04.pdf > >Looks like Skype is utilizing a STUN-variant, with RSA >1536-2048 bit encryption for the key material, and >AES-256 for the transport layer. Heavy duty crypto. > > > >======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. >=================================================== TSKS >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > 10710 From: kondrak Date: Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:02am Subject: Re: US bugs in the UN I cant think of a better bunch of commies to bug...specially since they have a liking for OUR money to line their pockets with. At 22:57 1/20/2005, you wrote: >Does anyone have confirming information on this? Roger > > > >I was wondering if you were aware of the story that appeared in the >German media, but was censored from the American News, about Condelezza >Rice having had the CIA bug the offices of the UN Security Counsel >members during the hearings on Iraq? She admitted it to Der Speigel >reporters, but nothing was ever mentioned in this country. The bugs were >found during a routine search by British MI6 and were quickly identified >as being CIA. The CIA said that they were ordered by Rice to place the >bugs. Rice's reply was "yeah, so what!" It never went any further. > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 1/17/2005 > > > > > >======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. >=================================================== TSKS >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > 10711 From: kondrak Date: Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:03am Subject: Re: US bugs in the UN Professional jealousy.... At 23:15 1/20/2005, you wrote: >Hey maybe Condi's not so bad after all ;) > >Why the heck would MI6 drop a dime on finding them, if >this story is accurate? 10712 From: kondrak Date: Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:03am Subject: Re: FBI abandons Carnivore wiretap software Oh SURE they have..uh huh...... At 19:53 1/20/2005, you wrote: >FBI abandons Carnivore wiretap software >Commercial program, 3rd-party wiretaps now usedThe Associated Press >Updated: 9:55 p.m. ET Jan. 18, 2005WASHINGTON - The FBI has >effectively >abandoned its custom-built Internet surveillance technology, once >known as >Carnivore, designed to read e-mails and other online communications >among >suspected criminals, terrorists and spies, according to bureau >oversight >reports submitted to Congress. >Instead, the FBI said it has switched to unspecified commercial >software to >eavesdrop on computer traffic during such investigations and has >increasingly asked Internet providers to conduct wiretaps on targeted >customers on the government's behalf, reimbursing companies for >their costs. >The FBI performed only eight Internet wiretaps in fiscal 2003 and >five in >fiscal 2002; none used the software initially called Carnivore and >later >renamed the DCS-1000, according to FBI documents submitted to Senate >and >House oversight committees. The FBI, which once said Carnivore >was "far >better" than commercial products, said previously it had used the >technology >about 25 times between 1998 and 2000. >'We're using [commercially available software] more now and we're >asking the >Internet service providers that have the capabilities to collect >data in >compliance with court orders.' > >- Paul Bresson >FBI spokesman > >The FBI said it could not disclose how much it spent to produce the >surveillance software it no longer uses, saying part of its budget >was >classified. Outside experts said the government probably spent >between $6 >million and $15 million. >The congressional oversight reports were obtained last week under >the U.S. >Freedom of Information Act by the Washington-based Electronic Privacy >Information Center, a civil liberties group that criticized the >surveillance >software after it was first disclosed in 2000. >Commercial alternatives >FBI spokesman Paul Bresson said the bureau moved to popular >commercial >wiretap software because it was less expensive and had improved in >its >ability to copy e-mails and other communications of a targeted >Internet >account without affecting other subscribers. >"We see the value in the commercially available software; we're >using it >more now and we're asking the Internet service providers that have >the >capabilities to collect data in compliance with court orders," >Bresson said. >The FBI said last week it was sending back to the drawing board its >$170 >million computer overhaul, which was intended to give agents and >analysts an >instantaneous and paperless way to manage criminal and terrorism >cases. > >Related stories >FBI may have to scrap new computer program > From 2001: FBI software cracks encryption wall >Experts said the life span of roughly four years for the bureau's >homegrown >surveillance technology was similar to the shelf life of cutting-edge >products in private industry. >"It's hard to criticize the FBI trying to keep pace with >technology," said >James Dempsey of the Washington-based Center for Democracy and >Technology. >"There is just a huge amount of innovation and development going on >in the >private sector." >Henry H. Perritt Jr., who led an oversight study of Carnivore in >2000 for >the Justice Department, said the FBI originally built its own >surveillance >system because commercial tools were inadequate. Perritt, a >professor at the >Chicago-Kent College of Law, said he was unaware of any commercial >wiretap >software that includes audit features robust enough to convince a >federal >judge that e-mails from innocent Internet users weren't captured by >mistake. >"You'd like to have a package that supervisors within a field office >and in >Washington could do an audit and make sure they're using the tools >compliant >with the court order," Perritt said. >The FBI laboratory division, which produced Carnivore, was headed by >Donald >M. Kerr, who left the FBI in August 2001 to become the CIA's chief >gadget-maker as head of its science and technology directorate. Kerr >told >lawmakers in 2000 that Carnivore was "far better than any >commercially-available sniffer." > >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6841403/ > > > > > > > > > >======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. >=================================================== TSKS >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > 10713 From: Nalesnik, Matthew Date: Fri Jan 21, 2005 0:01pm Subject: RE: US bugs in the UN Amen! -----Original Message----- From: kondrak [mailto:kondrak@s...] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 12:03 PM To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] US bugs in the UN I cant think of a better bunch of commies to bug...specially since they have a liking for OUR money to line their pockets with. At 22:57 1/20/2005, you wrote: >Does anyone have confirming information on this? Roger > > > >I was wondering if you were aware of the story that appeared in the >German media, but was censored from the American News, about Condelezza >Rice having had the CIA bug the offices of the UN Security Counsel >members during the hearings on Iraq? She admitted it to Der Speigel >reporters, but nothing was ever mentioned in this country. The bugs were >found during a routine search by British MI6 and were quickly identified >as being CIA. The CIA said that they were ordered by Rice to place the >bugs. Rice's reply was "yeah, so what!" It never went any further. > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 1/17/2005 > > > > > >======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. >=================================================== TSKS >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TSCM-L/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TSCM-L-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10714 From: littledog Date: Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:00pm Subject: Re: Mains Mover/Current Carrier I have 2 tv's bought new (4 yrs. ago) from wal-mart that came with carrier current bugs already installed they appeared to be after factory instalations, I also have an answering machine (purchased 3 yrs. ago) from radio shack that came with a rather sophisticated infinity bug and a call forwarding device already installed..any comments? should I sue? what's up with this, anyone else experience such things?> -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Moore [mailto:ASMoore@A...] > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005, 3:36 AM > To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [TSCM-L] Mains Mover/Current Carrier > > > A firm called Devolo, based in Germany, is now marketing a device which > modulates stereo, high bandwidth audio onto the power cabling in order to > distribute music etc around households - it's not hard to see other uses for > such a device! It en/decodes audio, at 44KHz CD quality, onto OFDM > carriers, across the HF band, on to cabling for subsequent conversion a > couple of hundred metres away. Probably quite obvious on a SA but also very > easy to deploy.... > > http://www.devolo.com/co_EN/produkte/dlan/mldlanaudio.html > > Andy M > > > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > 10715 From: Ramon Date: Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:40pm Subject: China to launch communication satellite China will send a communication satellite owned by a Hong Kong company into space during the first half of this year. China National Space Administration says the European-made satellite is expected to orbit for 13 years and will be responsible for transmitting radio and television signals for China, East Asia, Australia and Hawaii. Meanwhile, a multi-purpose small satellite developed by China, Pakistan, Thailand, Bangladesh, Mongolia, South Korea, and Iran will be launched in 2006. It will be used to carry out scientific experiments and environmental observations for countries in the Asia-Pacific region. http://english.people.com.cn/200501/21/eng20050121_171494.html 10716 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:26pm Subject: US, Is the FBI covering up its spies? http://www.keralanext.com/news/indexread.asp?id=95631 US, Is the FBI covering up its spies? Wednesday, January 19, 2005 [US News]: Was the case of former FBI agent Robert Hanssen turned Russian informant just a blip or one of many? The FBI is currently going through a major investigation following the complaints of a former translator; who insists that there is espionage going on from within the bureau. According to Sibel Edmond she was fired from her position only after she had made complaints to senior officials in the FBI and put forward an official memo stating so. She has since sued for un lawful dismissal and asked for compensation only for her case to be thrown out by the presiding judge following the intervention of then Attorney General John Ashcroft who said her claims might expose government secrets and be damaging to…national security. The case concerning Edmonds has been handed to the U.S. Justice Department's senior oversight official whose report states that her allegations regarding shoddy work and possible espionage from within the bureau's translator program were never properly investigated. Former translator Sibel Edmond's allegations were backed up by evidence and witnesses but the FBI's response to her complaints was "significantly flawed" said Inspector General Glenn Fine. Moreover, Edmond's claims "raised substantial questions and were supported by various pieces of evidence." Edmonds has continuously stated that she was only fired after she had made complaints to FBI managers about poor wiretap translations and that one interpreter who had a relative at a foreign embassy, may have compromised national security by blocking certain translations and notifying the targets of FBI surveillance. The FBI has claimed that it is still investigating Edmond's claims. The report also revealed that Edmonds was fired for using her home computer in which she wrote the memorandum detailing her suspicions; the FBI had deemed the actions as a security violation. However, the translator had held "Top Secret" clearance and was given the permission to work on her memo from home by an FBI supervisor. So having been given the permission to work from home, and submitted an official memorandum stating that espionage is being carried out from within the FBI, claims for which she had substantial evidence to back up why did senior officials not follow up? In the wake of the scandal involving Robert Hanssen, the FBI agent, who'd been a Russian agent for more than a decade, the lack of review by the FBI into Edmond's allegations has provoked a strong rebuke from several senators. Senator Patrick Leahy, who also sits on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said "The bureau has reflexively ignored and punished its whistleblowers, to the detriment of the bureau's effectiveness and sometimes to the detriment of the public's safety." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10717 From: Tech Sec Lab Date: Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:08pm Subject: RE: US bugs in the UN Really, what bunch of commies would that be Kindrak? Would it be the commies in Russia? Or the Nazi commies? Or the US secret commies? Or the alien commies? Or the nice people that live next door to you but who have different outlooks "on the world" commies? Please take your pick....your contribution to TSCM is truly enlighting.... Please don't stop now, you're on a role..... **************************** Message: 2 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:02:34 -0500 From: kondrak Subject: Re: US bugs in the UN I cant think of a better bunch of commies to bug...specially since they have a liking for OUR money to line their pockets with. At 22:57 1/20/2005, you wrote: 10718 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:30pm Subject: Russian Republic Charges Topographer With Selling State Secrets http://www.fas.org/irp/news/2005/01/tass011905.html Russian Republic Charges Topographer With Selling State Secrets ITAR-TASS Wednesday, January 19, 2005 Yoshkar-Ola, 19 January: The Federal Security Service (FSB) directorate for the Republic of Mari El has instituted criminal proceedings for divulging state secrets. The charge has been levelled against a principal specialist in the topographic department of the Mari Trust for Survey and Construction Work. He faces up to four years in prison for the offence. The head of the press service of the FSB directorate for Mari El, Dmitriy Izotov, told an ITAR-TASS correspondent that the accused, who has not yet been named, sold secret documents to somebody without access to state secrets, namely a catalogue of coordinates of all geodesic points in the republic. The suspect had access to secret information and, therefore, realized he was committing a crime. When investigators searched his flat, they found another 250 documents, half of which, according to experts, are secret. Investigators are trying to establish what damage has been done, as a result, to the state. This is the first criminal case in the republic's history to be instituted under Article 283 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, which deals with the divulging of state secrets. (Description of Source: Moscow ITAR-TASS in Russian -- main government information agency) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10719 From: mpaulsen6 Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 0:36am Subject: Re: Mains Mover/Current Carrier Hey.. I think I know what you're talking about.. my computer came with this onboard 'category 5 cable attachment' thingy. Looks kinda like a phone plug but larger and the phone company guy came out and hooked up my CABLE TV!?! line to it with this little gray box. And it was 'preloaded' with this 'software' from this company called 'microsoft' that made me 'accept' these 'license agreement's before I could use it. You don't think that they could be spying on me do you? Should I sue this strange 'microsoft'. Can anyone tell me how? Maybe I should hire someone to investigate them. I'm really concerned. Really. --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, littledog wrote: > > I have 2 tv's bought new (4 yrs. ago) from wal-mart that came with carrier current bugs already installed they appeared to be after factory instalations, I also have an answering machine (purchased 3 yrs. ago) from radio shack that came with a rather sophisticated infinity bug and a call forwarding device already installed..any comments? should I sue? what's up with this, anyone else experience such things?> -----Original Message----- > > From: Andy Moore [mailto:ASMoore@A...] > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005, 3:36 AM > > To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [TSCM-L] Mains Mover/Current Carrier > > > > > > A firm called Devolo, based in Germany, is now marketing a device which > > modulates stereo, high bandwidth audio onto the power cabling in order to > > distribute music etc around households - it's not hard to see other uses for > > such a device! It en/decodes audio, at 44KHz CD quality, onto OFDM > > carriers, across the HF band, on to cabling for subsequent conversion a > > couple of hundred metres away. Probably quite obvious on a SA but also very > > easy to deploy.... > > > > http://www.devolo.com/co_EN/produkte/dlan/mldlanaudio.html > > > > Andy M > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > =================================================== TSKS > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10720 From: mpaulsen6 Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 0:38am Subject: Re: FBI abandons Carnivore wiretap software Yea.. maybe they found out about etheral.. wow.. $110 million saved. Guess they should revamp their voicemail next. --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, kondrak wrote: > Oh SURE they have..uh huh...... > > > At 19:53 1/20/2005, you wrote: > > > > >FBI abandons Carnivore wiretap software > >Commercial program, 3rd-party wiretaps now usedThe Associated Press > >Updated: 9:55 p.m. ET Jan. 18, 2005WASHINGTON - The FBI has > >effectively > >abandoned its custom-built Internet surveillance technology, once > >known as > >Carnivore, designed to read e-mails and other online communications > >among > >suspected criminals, terrorists and spies, according to bureau > >oversight > >reports submitted to Congress. > >Instead, the FBI said it has switched to unspecified commercial > >software to > >eavesdrop on computer traffic during such investigations and has > >increasingly asked Internet providers to conduct wiretaps on targeted > >customers on the government's behalf, reimbursing companies for > >their costs. > >The FBI performed only eight Internet wiretaps in fiscal 2003 and > >five in > >fiscal 2002; none used the software initially called Carnivore and > >later > >renamed the DCS-1000, according to FBI documents submitted to Senate > >and > >House oversight committees. The FBI, which once said Carnivore > >was "far > >better" than commercial products, said previously it had used the > >technology > >about 25 times between 1998 and 2000. > >'We're using [commercially available software] more now and we're > >asking the > >Internet service providers that have the capabilities to collect > >data in > >compliance with court orders.' > > > >- Paul Bresson > >FBI spokesman > > > >The FBI said it could not disclose how much it spent to produce the > >surveillance software it no longer uses, saying part of its budget > >was > >classified. Outside experts said the government probably spent > >between $6 > >million and $15 million. > >The congressional oversight reports were obtained last week under > >the U.S. > >Freedom of Information Act by the Washington-based Electronic Privacy > >Information Center, a civil liberties group that criticized the > >surveillance > >software after it was first disclosed in 2000. > >Commercial alternatives > >FBI spokesman Paul Bresson said the bureau moved to popular > >commercial > >wiretap software because it was less expensive and had improved in > >its > >ability to copy e-mails and other communications of a targeted > >Internet > >account without affecting other subscribers. > >"We see the value in the commercially available software; we're > >using it > >more now and we're asking the Internet service providers that have > >the > >capabilities to collect data in compliance with court orders," > >Bresson said. > >The FBI said last week it was sending back to the drawing board its > >$170 > >million computer overhaul, which was intended to give agents and > >analysts an > >instantaneous and paperless way to manage criminal and terrorism > >cases. > > > >Related stories > >FBI may have to scrap new computer program > > From 2001: FBI software cracks encryption wall > >Experts said the life span of roughly four years for the bureau's > >homegrown > >surveillance technology was similar to the shelf life of cutting- edge > >products in private industry. > >"It's hard to criticize the FBI trying to keep pace with > >technology," said > >James Dempsey of the Washington-based Center for Democracy and > >Technology. > >"There is just a huge amount of innovation and development going on > >in the > >private sector." > >Henry H. Perritt Jr., who led an oversight study of Carnivore in > >2000 for > >the Justice Department, said the FBI originally built its own > >surveillance > >system because commercial tools were inadequate. Perritt, a > >professor at the > >Chicago-Kent College of Law, said he was unaware of any commercial > >wiretap > >software that includes audit features robust enough to convince a > >federal > >judge that e-mails from innocent Internet users weren't captured by > >mistake. > >"You'd like to have a package that supervisors within a field office > >and in > >Washington could do an audit and make sure they're using the tools > >compliant > >with the court order," Perritt said. > >The FBI laboratory division, which produced Carnivore, was headed by > >Donald > >M. Kerr, who left the FBI in August 2001 to become the CIA's chief > >gadget-maker as head of its science and technology directorate. Kerr > >told > >lawmakers in 2000 that Carnivore was "far better than any > >commercially-available sniffer." > > > >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6841403/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >======================================================== > > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > >=================================================== TSKS > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > 10721 From: mpaulsen6 Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 0:42am Subject: Re: Inaugural Pictures "Sir, they'll never guess the microtransmitter is here." "I feel like I'm back in Texas. Steers and..." well you know.. --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dever wrote: > Captions: > > "Keep looking, you'll find it!" > > "Looking for my weapon of mass destruction, heh heh heh!" > > > On 21 Jan 2005, at 10:09, James M. Atkinson wrote: > > > > > > > Here is one of those secret Skull and Bones ceremonies > > > > http://conservativelife.com/blog/media/bushzipper.jpg > > > > Can anybody come up with an appropiate caption, or shall we just let > > the > > picture speak for itself. > > > > -jma > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > ----------------------------- > > We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > ----------------------------- > > James M. 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Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael J. Dever CPP > Dever Clark & Associates > GPO Box 1163 > Canberra ACT 2601 > Australia > Voice: +612 6254 5337 > Email: dca@b... > ********************************************************************* *** > ***** > This message is sent in strict confidence for the addressee only. > It may contain legally privileged information. The contents are not to > be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee. Unauthorised > recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise > the sender immediately of any error in transmission. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10722 From: mpaulsen6 Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 0:43am Subject: Re: Inaugural Pictures I thought Dick had that end.. Ha.. I kill me.. --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, PGibson957@a... wrote: > > Yeap. Make sure it don't free-fall like Bill's > > Whooa there big fella ... Ted will take care of that end. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10723 From: mpaulsen6 Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 0:45am Subject: Re: US bugs in the UN So, is the subject line of this thread the joke or the leadin? --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, "Tech Sec Lab" wrote: > Really, what bunch of commies would that be Kindrak? > > Would it be the commies in Russia? > > Or the Nazi commies? > > Or the US secret commies? > > Or the alien commies? > > Or the nice people that live next door to you but who have different > outlooks "on the world" commies? > > Please take your pick....your contribution to TSCM is truly enlighting.... > > > Please don't stop now, you're on a role..... > > > > > **************************** > > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:02:34 -0500 > From: kondrak > Subject: Re: US bugs in the UN > > I cant think of a better bunch of commies to bug...specially since they have > a liking for OUR money to line their pockets with. > > At 22:57 1/20/2005, you wrote: 10724 From: mpaulsen6 Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 0:46am Subject: Re: Russian Republic Charges Topographer With Selling State Secrets Russian Republic Charges Topographer... I bet he never pays the bill.. Just ask IBM. --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, "James M. Atkinson" wrote: > > http://www.fas.org/irp/news/2005/01/tass011905.html > > Russian Republic Charges Topographer With Selling State Secrets > ITAR-TASS > Wednesday, January 19, 2005 > > > Yoshkar-Ola, 19 January: The Federal Security Service (FSB) directorate for > the Republic of Mari El > has instituted criminal proceedings for divulging state secrets. The charge > has been levelled > against a principal specialist in the topographic department of the Mari > Trust for Survey and > Construction Work. He faces up to four years in prison for the offence. > > > The head of the press service of the FSB directorate for Mari El, Dmitriy > Izotov, told an ITAR-TASS > correspondent that the accused, who has not yet been named, sold secret > documents to somebody > without access to state secrets, namely a catalogue of coordinates of all > geodesic points in the > republic. The suspect had access to secret information and, therefore, > realized he was committing a > crime. When investigators searched his flat, they found another 250 > documents, half of which, > according to experts, are secret. Investigators are trying to establish > what damage has been done, > as a result, to the state. > > > This is the first criminal case in the republic's history to be instituted > under Article 283 of the > Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, which deals with the divulging of > state secrets. > > > (Description of Source: Moscow ITAR-TASS in Russian -- main government > information agency) > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- > We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- > James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546- 3803 > Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 > 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ > Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... > ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- > World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and > Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- 10725 From: mpaulsen6 Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 0:46am Subject: Re: wi-Fi ? clones oh.. hullo? UH? This again.. Damn, didn't we cover this in.. what 2002? --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, "A Grudko" wrote: > > > LONDON, England -- "Evil twins" are the latest menace to threaten the > security of Internet users, experts in the UK are warning. > > An "evil twin" is a bogus base station that latches on to someone using new > "Wi-Fi" wireless technology. > > Victims think their laptops or mobile phones are connected to bona fide > wireless internet connections. > > They may then transmit valuable bank details or other personal information, > not suspecting that they are being intercepted by cybercriminals. > > Professor Brian Collins, from the Royal Military College of Science, > Cranfield University, a former chief scientist at GCHQ -- the Government's > secret eavesdropping station -- said: "Users need to be wary of not using > their Wi-Fi enabled laptops or other portable devices in order to conduct > financial transactions or anything that is of a sensitive personal nature, > for fear of having disclosed this information to an unauthorised third > party." > > Wireless devices link to the Internet via "hotspots" - nearby connection > points that they lock on to. But these hotspots can act like an open door to > thieves. > > Anyone with suitable equipment can locate a hotspot and take its place, > substituting their own "evil twin." > > Dr. Phil Nobles, a wireless Internet and cybercrime expert at Cranfield > University, said: "So-called 'evil twin' hotspots present a hidden danger > for Web users. > > "In essence, users think they've logged on to a wireless hotspot connection > when in fact they've been tricked to connect to the attacker's unauthorised > base station. > > "The latter jams the connection to a legitimate base station by sending a > stronger signal within close proximity to the wireless client -- thereby > turning itself into an 'evil twin.' > > "Cybercriminals don't have to be that clever to carry out such an attack. > Because wireless networks are based on radio signals they can be easily > detected by unauthorised users tuning into the same channel hopping group. > > Unwitting web users are invited to log into the attacker's server with bogus > login prompts, tempting them to give away sensitive information such as user > names and passwords. > > Often users are unaware the have been duped until well after the incident > has occurred. > > Dr. Nobles spelled out the warning at a wireless crime event held at the > Dana Centre, the Science Museum's forum for discussing controversial > science, in London. > > Lisa Jamieson, Head of Programmes at the Dana Centre, said: "Half of all > business wireless networks in this country have inadequate security controls > in place, making their information vulnerable to attack." > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.816 / Virus Database: 554 - Release Date: 2004/12/14 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10726 From: mpaulsen6 Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 0:49am Subject: Re: US, Is the FBI covering up its spies? for using her home > computer in which she wrote the memorandum detailing her suspicions; > the FBI had deemed the actions as a security violation. See = proves to work for the Secret Service! --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, "James M. Atkinson" wrote: > > > > http://www.keralanext.com/news/indexread.asp?id=95631 > > > US, Is the FBI covering up its spies? > Wednesday, January 19, 2005 > > > > [US News]: Was the case of former FBI agent Robert Hanssen turned > Russian informant just a blip or one of many? > > > The FBI is currently going through a major investigation following the > complaints of a former translator; who insists that there is espionage > going on from within the bureau. > > > According to Sibel Edmond she was fired from her position only after > she had made complaints to senior officials in the FBI and put forward > an official memo stating so. > > > She has since sued for un lawful dismissal and asked for compensation > only for her case to be thrown out by the presiding judge following > the intervention of then Attorney General John Ashcroft who said her > claims might expose government secrets and be damaging to…national > security. > > > > The case concerning Edmonds has been handed to the U.S. Justice > Department's senior oversight official whose report states that her > allegations regarding shoddy work and possible espionage from within > the bureau's translator program were never properly investigated. > > > Former translator Sibel Edmond's allegations were backed up by > evidence and witnesses but the FBI's response to her complaints was > "significantly flawed" said Inspector General Glenn Fine. Moreover, > Edmond's claims "raised substantial questions and were supported by > various pieces of evidence." > > > Edmonds has continuously stated that she was only fired after she had > made complaints to FBI managers about poor wiretap translations and > that one interpreter who had a relative at a foreign embassy, may have > compromised national security by blocking certain translations and > notifying the targets of FBI surveillance. > > > The FBI has claimed that it is still investigating Edmond's claims. > The report also revealed that Edmonds was fired for using her home > computer in which she wrote the memorandum detailing her suspicions; > the FBI had deemed the actions as a security violation. However, the > translator had held "Top Secret" clearance and was given the > permission to work on her memo from home by an FBI supervisor. > > > So having been given the permission to work from home, and submitted > an official memorandum stating that espionage is being carried out > from within the FBI, claims for which she had substantial evidence to > back up why did senior officials not follow up? > > > In the wake of the scandal involving Robert Hanssen, the FBI agent, > who'd been a Russian agent for more than a decade, the lack of review > by the FBI into Edmond's allegations has provoked a strong rebuke from > several senators. Senator Patrick Leahy, who also sits on the Senate > Judiciary Committee, said "The bureau has reflexively ignored and > punished its whistleblowers, to the detriment of the bureau's > effectiveness and sometimes to the detriment of the public's safety." > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- > We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- > James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546- 3803 > Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 > 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ > Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... > ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- > World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and > Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- 10727 From: mpaulsen6 Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 0:51am Subject: Re: China to launch communication satellite Oh no.. More public access channels with strange soaps! To the freezer foil role! --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, "Ramon" wrote: > > > China will send a communication satellite owned by a Hong Kong > company > into space during the first half of this year. > China National Space Administration says the European-made satellite > is > expected to orbit for 13 years and will be responsible for > transmitting > radio and television signals for China, East Asia, Australia and > Hawaii. > Meanwhile, a multi-purpose small satellite developed by China, > Pakistan, > Thailand, Bangladesh, Mongolia, South Korea, and Iran will be > launched > in 2006. > It will be used to carry out scientific experiments and environmental > observations for countries in the Asia-Pacific region. > > http://english.people.com.cn/200501/21/eng20050121_171494.html 10728 From: mpaulsen6 Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 0:53am Subject: Re: McDonald's in Boca to offer glimpse into world of espionage Maybe he'll get on a wifi basestation at a McDonalds and get hacked :) --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, "A Grudko" wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: James M. Atkinson [mailto:jmatk@t...] > > > Boca Raton · He's an international man of intrigue who's bringing > some of the old trade secrets from the espionage world to, well, a > McDonald's. > > Now if he could just put up a poster revealing what REALLY goes into 'The > Colonel's 14 Secret Herbs and Spices' and the fabled Coca Cola recipe which > it is rumoured even the KGB could not get (in a failed 70's attempt to copy > the US brand into the Eastern block - they should have left the vodka out). > > Andy Grudko (British), DPM, Grad IS (South Africa) > MIS/Grudko Associates, Est. 1981. PSIRA reg. No. 8642 > www.grudko.com , agrudko@i... > Pretoria HO (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax) Branches: > Sandton (+27 11) 465 9673 - 465 1487 (Fax) > Johannesburg (+27 11) 781 7206 - 781 7207(Fax) > Mid Rand (+27 11) 318 1451 - 318 6846(Fax) > Cellular (+27) 82 778 6355 - ICQ 146498943 > SACI(Pres) SASA, IPA, WAD, CALI, UKPIN, IWWA. > "When you need it done right - first time" > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10729 From: mpaulsen6 Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 0:54am Subject: Re: Analysis of the Skype Protocol I wonder if that goes to a pron site. --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, G P wrote: > > From ./ today: > > /. rather (http://www.slashdot.org) 10730 From: mpaulsen6 Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 0:57am Subject: Suspects copy 'Wire' Ok.. so here's something that's o/t... Suspects copy 'Wire' NEW YORK (AP) -- David Simon's HBO series "The Wire" -- a fictional account of a police investigation of Baltimore drug dealers -- allegedly had some real-life dealers taking notes. While announcing a crackdown on Friday of a cocaine ring, police said their investigation was hampered by the suspects' habit of switching cell phones -- a technique for evading electronic eavesdropping they picked up from TV. "Believe it or not, these guys copied 'The Wire,' " one of the investigators, Sgt. Felipe Rodriguez, said at a news conference. "They were constantly dumping their phones. It made our job so much harder." Police relied largely on wiretaps to infiltrate the gang, which made up to $15 million a year. The result: 12 arrests and seizure of 43 kilograms of cocaine, 18 handguns, $500,000 cash and five luxury vehicles. While doing business by cell phone, the suspects often spoke to each other about "The Wire" after it aired on Sunday nights, Rodriguez said. Some of the officers listening to them also were fans. "If we missed anything, we got it from them Monday morning," the sergeant said of the television show. 10731 From: Steve Whitehead Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:44am Subject: Re: Re: McDonald's in Boca to offer glimpse into world of espionage Dear Mr Paulsen Do you have to comment on everything. Who cares what you think!!!!!!!!!!! This List has become very boring and a big waste of time. When I joined a few years ago the members really contributed value. I do not have time for this rubbish anymore. This List no longer makes any contribution to TSCM. I will unsubscribe myself. Bye! Steve Whitehead ----- Original Message ----- From: "mpaulsen6" To: Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 8:53 AM Subject: [TSCM-L] Re: McDonald's in Boca to offer glimpse into world of espionage Maybe he'll get on a wifi basestation at a McDonalds and get hacked :) --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, "A Grudko" wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: James M. Atkinson [mailto:jmatk@t...] > > > Boca Raton · He's an international man of intrigue who's bringing > some of the old trade secrets from the espionage world to, well, a > McDonald's. > > Now if he could just put up a poster revealing what REALLY goes into 'The > Colonel's 14 Secret Herbs and Spices' and the fabled Coca Cola recipe which > it is rumoured even the KGB could not get (in a failed 70's attempt to copy > the US brand into the Eastern block - they should have left the vodka out). > > Andy Grudko (British), DPM, Grad IS (South Africa) > MIS/Grudko Associates, Est. 1981. PSIRA reg. No. 8642 > www.grudko.com , agrudko@i... > Pretoria HO (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax) Branches: > Sandton (+27 11) 465 9673 - 465 1487 (Fax) > Johannesburg (+27 11) 781 7206 - 781 7207(Fax) > Mid Rand (+27 11) 318 1451 - 318 6846(Fax) > Cellular (+27) 82 778 6355 - ICQ 146498943 > SACI(Pres) SASA, IPA, WAD, CALI, UKPIN, IWWA. > "When you need it done right - first time" > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS Yahoo! Groups Links 10732 From: littledog Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:46am Subject: Re: Re: Mains Mover/Current Carrier yea mr. paulson your a real wit, I think I've seen your work on other lists too..'till now I've really enjoyed this list.> -----Original Message----- > From: mpaulsen6 [mailto:mpaulsen6@a...] > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005, 10:34 PM > To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [TSCM-L] Re: Mains Mover/Current Carrier > > > > Hey.. I think I know what you're talking about.. my computer came > with this onboard 'category 5 cable attachment' thingy. Looks kinda > like a phone plug but larger and the phone company guy came out and > hooked up my CABLE TV!?! line to it with this little gray box. And > it was 'preloaded' with this 'software' from this company > called 'microsoft' that made me 'accept' these 'license agreement's > before I could use it. You don't think that they could be spying on > me do you? Should I sue this strange 'microsoft'. Can anyone tell > me how? Maybe I should hire someone to investigate them. I'm > really concerned. Really. > --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, littledog wrote: > > > > I have 2 tv's bought new (4 yrs. ago) from wal-mart that came with > carrier current bugs already installed they appeared to be after > factory instalations, I also have an answering machine (purchased 3 > yrs. ago) from radio shack that came with a rather sophisticated > infinity bug and a call forwarding device already installed..any > comments? should I sue? what's up with this, anyone else experience > such things?> -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andy Moore [mailto:ASMoore@A...] > > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005, 3:36 AM > > > To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [TSCM-L] Mains Mover/Current Carrier > > > > > > > > > A firm called Devolo, based in Germany, is now marketing a > device which > > > modulates stereo, high bandwidth audio onto the power cabling in > order to > > > distribute music etc around households - it's not hard to see > other uses for > > > such a device! It en/decodes audio, at 44KHz CD quality, onto > OFDM > > > carriers, across the HF band, on to cabling for subsequent > conversion a > > > couple of hundred metres away. Probably quite obvious on a SA > but also very > > > easy to deploy.... > > > > > > http://www.devolo.com/co_EN/produkte/dlan/mldlanaudio.html > > > > > > Andy M > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > > > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > > > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > > > > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > > > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > > > > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > > > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > > =================================================== TSKS > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > 10733 From: littledog Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:03am Subject: to moderator hello, this guy at mpaulsen6@a... who has been insulting every single member is doing it from a fake address. Thought you might want to check on this. littledog...enjoy the list. 10734 From: Tech Sec Lab Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:57am Subject: RE: TSCM list It's a shame this list has gone the way it has... If anyone is interested in being part of an active professionals only list that stays focused on the topic rather than what has become a free for all, please feel free to sign up, http://ocean-research.net/mailman/listinfo/c4i-l_ocean-research.net Regards -Ois *********************** Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:44:23 +0200 From: "Steve Whitehead" Subject: Re: Re: McDonald's in Boca to offer glimpse into world of espionage Dear Mr Paulsen Do you have to comment on everything. Who cares what you think!!!!!!!!!!! This List has become very boring and a big waste of time. When I joined a few years ago the members really contributed value. I do not have time for this rubbish anymore. This List no longer makes any contribution to TSCM. I will unsubscribe myself. Bye! Steve Whitehead 10735 From: Thomas Shaddack Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 8:46am Subject: Re: Re: Mains Mover/Current Carrier I suggest to not bother much about it and if he makes problems, just plonk[1] him in accordance with the ages old Usenet tradition. Most of email clients allow moving messages to folders or deleting them at the moment of receiving, according to a set of user-defined rules. Implementation of a killfile in that way is pretty simple. [1] http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/P/plonk.html On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, littledog wrote: > > > yea mr. paulson your a real wit, I think I've seen your work on other lists too..'till now I've really enjoyed this list.> -----Original Message----- > > From: mpaulsen6 [mailto:mpaulsen6@a...] > > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005, 10:34 PM > > To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [TSCM-L] Re: Mains Mover/Current Carrier > > > > > > > > Hey.. I think I know what you're talking about.. my computer came > > with this onboard 'category 5 cable attachment' thingy. Looks kinda > > like a phone plug but larger and the phone company guy came out and > > hooked up my CABLE TV!?! line to it with this little gray box. And > > it was 'preloaded' with this 'software' from this company > > called 'microsoft' that made me 'accept' these 'license agreement's > > before I could use it. You don't think that they could be spying on > > me do you? Should I sue this strange 'microsoft'. Can anyone tell > > me how? Maybe I should hire someone to investigate them. I'm > > really concerned. Really. > > --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, littledog wrote: > > > > > > I have 2 tv's bought new (4 yrs. ago) from wal-mart that came with > > carrier current bugs already installed they appeared to be after > > factory instalations, I also have an answering machine (purchased 3 > > yrs. ago) from radio shack that came with a rather sophisticated > > infinity bug and a call forwarding device already installed..any > > comments? should I sue? what's up with this, anyone else experience > > such things?> -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Andy Moore [mailto:ASMoore@A...] > > > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005, 3:36 AM > > > > To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [TSCM-L] Mains Mover/Current Carrier > > > > > > > > > > > > A firm called Devolo, based in Germany, is now marketing a > > device which > > > > modulates stereo, high bandwidth audio onto the power cabling in > > order to > > > > distribute music etc around households - it's not hard to see > > other uses for > > > > such a device! It en/decodes audio, at 44KHz CD quality, onto > > OFDM > > > > carriers, across the HF band, on to cabling for subsequent > > conversion a > > > > couple of hundred metres away. Probably quite obvious on a SA > > but also very > > > > easy to deploy.... > > > > > > > > http://www.devolo.com/co_EN/produkte/dlan/mldlanaudio.html > > > > > > > > Andy M > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > > > > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > > > > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > > > > > > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > > > > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > > > > > > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > > > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > > > > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > > > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > > > =================================================== TSKS > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > =================================================== TSKS > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > 10736 From: A Grudko Date: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:23am Subject: RE: Suspects copy 'Wire' -----Original Message----- From: mpaulsen6 [mailto:mpaulsen6@a...] > While announcing a crackdown on Friday of a cocaine ring, police said their investigation was hampered by the suspects' habit of switching cell phones -- a technique for evading electronic eavesdropping they picked up from TV. "Believe it or not, these guys copied 'The Wire,' " one of the (NY) investigators, Sgt. Felipe Rodriguez, said... If this is correct I guess our criminals are wayyyy ahead of New York's crooks and cops. I had clients nearly a decade ago, who I strongly suspected of being organised crime figures but they were charged but never convicted, who swoped SIM cards and phones daily - to the extent that they set up a cellphone trade-in business at the back of a garage in Pretoria mainly to get hold of other peoples' phones to avoid 'spoopers'. Andy G South Africa