From: jtowler Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 7:13am Subject: RE: TRADEMARKS OF A FOOL Comment below ... -----Original Message----- From: A Grudko [mailto:agrudko@i...] Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2005 8:14 p.m. To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [TSCM-L] TRADEMARKS OF A FOOL -----Original Message----- From: James M. Atkinson [mailto:jmatk@t...] > The Book of Proverbs deals with many different topics that relate to every day life. Author? Assuming a genuine question, the book of Proverbs is one of the books in the Old Testament of the Bible. In its own words, from the first line, it is the "... Proverbs of Solomon, the son of David, King of Israel". Authors: "Solomon is generally credited with writing a large number of the Proverbs. It is probable that even these were not all original with him. Chapters 30 and 31 are the words of Agur and Lemuel." - Notes on the book of Proverbs, The Thompson Chain-Reference Bible (TCR). (c) NIV, 1983. Solomon lived approx 1015 to 975 BC according to notes in the Thompson Chain-Reference, who seems to be quoting "Ussher" for some of the older dates. His dad, David, lived 1055 to 1015 BC per the same source. An alternative source I have, gives dates for David as c. (circa/about) 1000-960 BC and Solomon as c. 970-930 BC. Is is considered that Solomon turned from his wisdom in his later years. His son Rehoboam, even more so, and ... became a foolish and evil ruler. - TCR. However, there is much wisdom contained in the writings and can even be "fun" to read parts of it. Example: "Gold there is, and rubies in abundance, but lips that speak knowledge are a rare jewel." Consider that when you read things on the internet or in your emails, or maybe the replies to this post if people don't opt to ignore or accept this answer in the good faith it is offered with. Regards, Jim Towler Wellington New Zealand. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 11013 From: Nalesnik, Matthew Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 7:42am Subject: RE: TRADEMARKS OF A FOOL I second that. Would love another posting such as that, James. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Guy Urbina [mailto:urbina1@l...] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 5:21 PM To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] TRADEMARKS OF A FOOL James, I for one enjoyed the article and found it enlightening and full of common sense. It has applications for the people I work with and for people on this list. \R -Guy ____________________________________________________________ Guy Urbina Defense Sciences Engineering Division Electronics Engineering Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory 7000 East Avenue, Mail Stop L-369 Livermore, CA 94551 USA Voice - (925) 422-6460 Fax - (925) 422-2118 email - urbina1@l... _____________________________________________________________ At 05:12 PM 2/7/2005 -0500, you wrote: >James, > >It's your group and you can post whatever you want, but why not start >another Yahoo group for the religious articles. This wasn't the forum >for it. > >Tim Johnson >Born a Baptist, raised a Protestant, married to a Catholic and my >religious beliefs are my own ands personal. I would hope that you >would keep your beliefs to yourself. > >Hopefully, I won't get bounced for my comment and view. > >Tim Johnson >-- ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" VAH! DENUONE LATINE LOQUEBAR? ME INEPTUM. INTERDUM MODO ELABITUR. =================================================== TSKS Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TSCM-L/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TSCM-L-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 11014 From: Nalesnik, Matthew Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 7:47am Subject: RE: Another question on Thermal Imagers How about Tim Johnson and Joe Joe take their little fight offline/private? It's been quite a number of postings since anyone else jumped in to agree with either of them, therefore, that makes it a private discussion, and one that I'm sure the majority of people don't want to be involved in. I think they're going to have to coin a new term, "email-rage". -----Original Message----- From: Tim Johnson [mailto:dbugman@d...] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:04 PM To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] Another question on Thermal Imagers Joe Joe, He asked three specific questions. 1. Do you have personal knowledge of the equipment? 2. How good is the picture? 3. Is it sufficient for TSCM work and able to focus in close range or is it only satisfactory for surveillance and outdoor applications? If I was familiar with that Imager, I would have answered the questions he posed. At any rate, i passed on your comment for him to look at. tim -- Tim Johnson Technical Security Consultants Inc. PO Box 1295 Carrollton, GA 30112 770-836-4898 770-712-2164 Cell What you say in private is your business. Keeping it private is ours. Georgia License # PDC 002074 Technical Security Consultants Inc. Member INTELNET Espionage Research Institute Association of Former Office of Special Investigations Special Agents-Technical Agent http://www.dbugman.com This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 11015 From: SEAN WALSH Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 10:36am Subject: Re: Re: Anyone know this new Yahoo-group (Email-tracer) Charles, essentially it is a marketing pitch for his sales organization. He is one of the best marketers in the PI industry.... Sean J. Walsh, C.P.I., C.C.V. Walsh & Associates (415)899-9660, Fax (415)898-5500 www.tscm.net PI 18345 11016 From: SEAN WALSH Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 10:49am Subject: Re: IRISYS Thermal Imager We have been using Thermal cameras on sweeps for awhile now. The Palm IR unit is convenient and passable. We also have an older Hughes/FLIR system that is for medical use. It is bulky and uses Argon gas canisters for cooling. Resolution is incredible and it has it's own CPU/controller and high resolution CRT monitor. The unit is excellent for larger sweeps, but takes time to set-up and another period of time to allow the Argon gas to cool the chip until stabilized. There is an engineer retired from Hughes in Southern CA who still repairs them and has parts as well. Argon gas (medical grade for less H20 content) is required and is stored at 6000 psi. These units pop up on the web occasionally but are probably overkill. Sean J. Walsh, C.P.I., C.C.V. Walsh & Associates (415)899-9660, Fax (415) 480-3198 www.tscm.net PI 18345 11017 From: joe joe Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 11:05am Subject: RE: Another question on Thermal Imagers lol..actually i am not fighting..believe that :) --- "Nalesnik, Matthew" wrote: > > How about Tim Johnson and Joe Joe take their little > fight offline/private? It's been quite a number of > postings since anyone else jumped in to agree with > either of them, therefore, that makes it a private > discussion, and one that I'm sure the majority of > people don't want to be involved in. > I think they're going to have to coin a new term, > "email-rage". > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Johnson [mailto:dbugman@d...] > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:04 PM > To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] Another question on Thermal > Imagers > > Joe Joe, > > He asked three specific questions. > > 1. Do you have personal knowledge of the equipment? > > 2. How good is the picture? > > 3. Is it sufficient for TSCM work and able to focus > in close range or > is it only satisfactory for surveillance and outdoor > applications? > > If I was familiar with that Imager, I would have > answered the > questions he posed. > > At any rate, i passed on your comment for him to > look at. > > tim > -- > > Tim Johnson > > Technical Security Consultants Inc. > PO Box 1295 > Carrollton, GA 30112 > 770-836-4898 > 770-712-2164 Cell > > What you say in private is your business. Keeping it > private is ours. > > Georgia License # PDC 002074 Technical Security > Consultants Inc. > Member INTELNET > Espionage Research Institute > Association of Former Office of Special > Investigations > Special Agents-Technical Agent > http://www.dbugman.com > > This e-mail is intended for the use of the > addressee(s) only and may > contain privileged confidential, or proprietary > information that is > exempt from disclosure under law. If you have > received this message > in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, > then delete the > e-mail and destroy any printed copy. > > Neither this information block, the typed name of > the sender, or > anything else in this message is intended to > constitute an electronic > signature for purposes of the Uniform Electronic > Transactions Act or > the Electronic Signatures in Global and National > Commerce Act > (E-Sign) unless a specific statement to the contrary > is included in > this message. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > VAH! DENUONE LATINE LOQUEBAR? > ME INEPTUM. INTERDUM MODO ELABITUR. > =================================================== > TSKS > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TSCM-L/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an > email to: > TSCM-L-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > the Yahoo! Terms of Service > . > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com 11018 From: joe joe Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 11:09am Subject: Re: IRISYS Thermal Imager an you post his contact info please? thanks --- SEAN WALSH wrote: > > We have been using Thermal cameras on sweeps for > awhile now. The Palm IR > unit is convenient and passable. We also have an > older Hughes/FLIR system > that is for medical use. It is bulky and uses Argon > gas canisters for > cooling. Resolution is incredible and it has it's > own CPU/controller and > high resolution CRT monitor. The unit is excellent > for larger sweeps, but > takes time to set-up and another period of time to > allow the Argon gas to > cool the chip until stabilized. There is an > engineer retired from Hughes in > Southern CA who still repairs them and has parts as > well. Argon gas > (medical grade for less H20 content) is required and > is stored at 6000 psi. > These units pop up on the web occasionally but are > probably overkill. > > Sean J. Walsh, C.P.I., C.C.V. > Walsh & Associates > (415)899-9660, Fax (415) 480-3198 > www.tscm.net > PI 18345 > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo 11019 From: Scott Malcolm Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 1:02pm Subject: Re: TRADEMARKS OF A FOOL Tim, When it comes to religious beliefs try to remember, "You don't have to be the birthday boy to come to the party" Regards, Scott Malcolm Malcolm & Associates, Inc. Serving the State of Wisconsin http://www.malcolm-associates.com Office 262 965 4426 Fax 262 965 4629 _________________________________________________ : Message: 11 : Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:12:44 -0500 : From: Tim Johnson : Subject: Re: TRADEMARKS OF A FOOL : : James, : : It's your group and you can post whatever you want, but why not start : another Yahoo group for the religious articles. This wasn't the forum : for it. : : Tim Johnson : Born a Baptist, raised a Protestant, married to a Catholic and my : religious beliefs are my own ands personal. I would hope that you : would keep your beliefs to yourself. : : Hopefully, I won't get bounced for my comment and view. : : Tim Johnson 11020 From: fromagebubble Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 1:13pm Subject: Re: Stolen Equipment Alert --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, "James M. Atkinson" wrote: > > A large quantity of TSCM equipment was stolen from someone a short time Sounds like an inside job, or a person that knows this someone and took their gear? It's not likely the common street hood would know about or appreciate these things. > please let me know privately and I will ensure the appropriate authorities > are notified, and that you are put in touch with the victim so you can > return their property. Are you handling the case? I recently contacted a guy in Washington (State) about a "WiNRADiO" product I am interested in for sweeping RF in our data center. He is selling model WR-3500 for $500, it has a list of $2500 I think. It seems like an outlandish deal! Thanks, Mel 11021 From: Tim Johnson Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 4:03pm Subject: An apology to the TSCM-L group members I apologize to the list for my recent interaction with Joe Joe. I probably shouldn't have wasted my time or yours in trying to explain something that should have been evident either time. But, I took the extra time because (and I may be wrong) it came across that his native language isn't English and i was concerned he didn't understand what I was trying to say. I haven't been a member of this group long enough to be able to recognize the TSCM professionals and the others who are there to try to pick up information and learn more about the profession. Regardless of whether he is a native English speaker or from another country, I will restrain myself in the future and let him read into a post whatever he wants. I, personally, feel that it is a disservice to anyone who posts a comment or question to ignore them. I have always gone out of my way to educate and/or enlighten those seeking information or posting what is probably erroneous information. But in this instance, based on the comment of other list members, I'll make an exception. For what it is worth, I believe Joe Joe contacted me several weeks or so ago via e-mail (his e-mail address looks familiar and information he posted to this group sounds like something I provided him in confidence) asking where he could get TSCM training and (I think) gathering information on becoming a PI. I think I answered his questions then, but haven't heard anything back. My only desire is to contribute to a list on which there are TSCM specialists and learn what I can, when I can. If anyone has a problem, comment or complaints, feel free to contact me direct.. Tim Johnson -- Tim Johnson Technical Security Consultants Inc. PO Box 1295 Carrollton, GA 30112 770-836-4898 770-712-2164 Cell What you say in private is your business. Keeping it private is ours. Georgia License # PDC 002074 Technical Security Consultants Inc. Member INTELNET Espionage Research Institute Association of Former Office of Special Investigations Special Agents-Technical Agent http://www.dbugman.com This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Neither this information block, the typed name of the sender, or anything else in this message is intended to constitute an electronic signature for purposes of the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act or the Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act (E-Sign) unless a specific statement to the contrary is included in this message. 11022 From: joe joe Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 4:21pm Subject: Re: An apology to the TSCM-L group members ok tim,lol :) --- Tim Johnson wrote: > I apologize to the list for my recent interaction > with Joe Joe. I > probably shouldn't have wasted my time or yours in > trying to explain > something that should have been evident either time. > But, I took the > extra time because (and I may be wrong) it came > across that his > native language isn't English and i was concerned he > didn't > understand what I was trying to say. I haven't been > a member of this > group long enough to be able to recognize the TSCM > professionals and > the others who are there to try to pick up > information and learn more > about the profession. > > Regardless of whether he is a native English speaker > or from another > country, I will restrain myself in the future and > let him read into a > post whatever he wants. I, personally, feel that it > is a disservice > to anyone who posts a comment or question to ignore > them. I have > always gone out of my way to educate and/or > enlighten those seeking > information or posting what is probably erroneous > information. But in > this instance, based on the comment of other list > members, I'll make > an exception. > > For what it is worth, I believe Joe Joe contacted me > several weeks or > so ago via e-mail (his e-mail address looks familiar > and information > he posted to this group sounds like something I > provided him in > confidence) asking where he could get TSCM training > and (I think) > gathering information on becoming a PI. I think I > answered his > questions then, but haven't heard anything back. > > My only desire is to contribute to a list on which > there are TSCM > specialists and learn what I can, when I can. If > anyone has a > problem, comment or complaints, feel free to contact > me direct.. > > Tim Johnson > > > -- > > Tim Johnson > > Technical Security Consultants Inc. > PO Box 1295 > Carrollton, GA 30112 > 770-836-4898 > 770-712-2164 Cell > > What you say in private is your business. Keeping it > private is ours. > > Georgia License # PDC 002074 Technical Security > Consultants Inc. > Member INTELNET > Espionage Research Institute > Association of Former Office of Special > Investigations > Special Agents-Technical Agent > http://www.dbugman.com > > This e-mail is intended for the use of the > addressee(s) only and may > contain privileged confidential, or proprietary > information that is > exempt from disclosure under law. If you have > received this message > in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, > then delete the > e-mail and destroy any printed copy. > > Neither this information block, the typed name of > the sender, or > anything else in this message is intended to > constitute an electronic > signature for purposes of the Uniform Electronic > Transactions Act or > the Electronic Signatures in Global and National > Commerce Act > (E-Sign) unless a specific statement to the contrary > is included in > this message. > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail 11023 From: moellerthy <1ach@g...> Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 4:47pm Subject: Re: Stolen Equipment Alert --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, "fromagebubble" wrote: > > > --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, "James M. Atkinson" wrote: > > > > A large quantity of TSCM equipment was stolen from someone a short > time > > Sounds like an inside job, or a person that knows this someone and > took their gear? It's not likely the common street hood would know > about or appreciate these things. > I think you are wrong at least in Ohio the druggies are knowledgable of TSCM procedures and many own sweep detection equipment to protect themselfs from body worn mic's. Know your enemy Andre Holmes 1ach@G... > > > please let me know privately and I will ensure the appropriate > authorities > > are notified, and that you are put in touch with the victim so you > can > > return their property. > > Are you handling the case? > > I recently contacted a guy in Washington (State) about a "WiNRADiO" > product I am interested in for sweeping RF in our data center. He is > selling model WR-3500 for $500, it has a list of $2500 I think. It > seems like an outlandish deal! > > Thanks, Mel 11024 From: Hawkspirit Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 6:15pm Subject: Oscor Yes it was an analog spectrum analyzer. I use an analog analyzer because there is no sampling rate that can interfere with reading pulsed signal sources. I will use a digital analyzer as well for precision measurements. Roger I take it that you used a Spectrum Analyser on your original sweep when you detected the Burst device Regards Dave David McGauley TSCM [Technical Surveillance and Countermeasures] Electronic Surveillance and Sweep Specialist Electrical/Electronics Engineer ex Police Demtec House Ormskirk Lancs L390HF UK 01695558544 07866206112 demtec@a..._ www.demtec.co.uk_ (HYPERLINK "http://www.demtec.co.uk/"http://www.demtec.co.uk/) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 11025 From: Hawkspirit Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 6:15pm Subject: Oscor What would your excuse be to the client if you did not identify one that was present at the tested location? They are out there, I have seen them. Roger. Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:56:40 +1100 From: Michael Dever Subject: Re: Oscor Speaking of 'burst bugs' - what level of threat do you believe they belong at? That is; professional/amateur, etc. Regards Mike -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 11026 From: Hawkspirit Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 6:16pm Subject: Lie detector Police in Radnor, PA interrogated a suspect by placing a metal colander on his head and connecting it with wires to a photocopy machine. The message, "He's lying" was placed in the copier and police pressed the copy button each time they thought the suspect wasn't telling the truth. Believing the "lie detector" was working, the suspect confessed. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 11027 From: Tim Johnson Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 6:23pm Subject: Re: Oscor Roger, I thought I was the only dinosaur that appreciated the analog displays when doing TSCM. Glad to see at leas one other one out there. tim -- Tim Johnson Technical Security Consultants Inc. PO Box 1295 Carrollton, GA 30112 770-836-4898 770-712-2164 Cell What you say in private is your business. Keeping it private is ours. Georgia License # PDC 002074 Technical Security Consultants Inc. MemberINTELNET Espionage Research Institute Association of Former Office of Special Investigations Special Agents-Technical Agent http://www.dbugman.com This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Neither this information block, the typed name of the sender, or anything else in this message is intended to constitute an electronic signature for purposes of the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act or the Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act (E-Sign) unless a specific statement to the contrary is included in this message. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 11028 From: Michael Dever Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 7:35pm Subject: Re: Oscor Roger With respect (please don't get offended), I think you missed the point of my question. I know they exist and we do have protocols for finding them. What I was interested in was: what are the capabilities of potential adversaries who might use a burst bug. This will assist greatly in conducting a threat assessment. I don't know about elsewhere, but here in Australia you won't find burst bugs being sold over the counter, so where do they come from? Yes I know the magic Internet. But seriously, what level of technical expertise do you think is required to design and construct a burst bug? Amateur, amateur radio operator, electronics engineer?? Regards Mike On 09 Feb 2005, at 11:15, Hawkspirit wrote: > What would your excuse be to the client if you did not identify one > that was > present at the tested location? > > They are out there, I have seen them. > > Roger. > Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:56:40 +1100 > > From: Michael Dever > > Subject: Re: Oscor > Speaking of 'burst bugs' - what level of threat do you believe they > > belong at? > That is; professional/amateur, etc. > Regards > > Mike > Michael J. Dever CPP Dever Clark & Associates GPO Box 1163 Canberra ACT 2601 Australia Voice: +612 6254 5337 Email: dca@b... ************************************************************************ ***** This message is sent in strict confidence for the addressee only. It may contain legally privileged information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise the sender immediately of any error in transmission. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 11029 From: Hawkspirit Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 7:55pm Subject: Sweep needed Residential sweep needed in South St. Paul Minnesota. Roger Tolces HYPERLINK "http://www.bugsweeps.com/"www.bugsweeps.com 760-861-7595 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 11030 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 7:48pm Subject: Terk HDTVi Antenna Here is an antenna that you may want to pick up to evaluate for a very inexpensive, but effective antenna for use during sweeps. http://www.terk.com/HDTVi.html It is a 75 ohm passive antenna, but the UHF log periodic element can be unplugged and used by itself and can be directly plugged into a low noise amplifier by using a long F style connector or even a short cable. I am not impressed with the stand or the VHF section of the antenna, but for 20-30 bucks I was very impressed with the UHF element. Buy the antenna, keep the top log periodic element and throw the rest away. An inexpensive 30-40 dB amplifier will make a big difference when looking for UHF wireless microphones and bugs, and you should be able to connect the output of the amplifier to the 50 ohm input of your spectrum analyzer but you will have to make a modest adjustment to your amplitude measurements if your SA only has a 50 ohm input. The antenna is spec'd from 470 to 894 MHz, but givent he geometry you should be able to use it from 350 to 950 MHz with no problem. -jma ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11031 From: Charles Patterson Date: Tue Feb 8, 2005 9:48pm Subject: Re: Lie detector Cute story Roger, but perhaps not new, may date back to the 60's. see: http://www.snopes.com/legal/colander.htm Perhaps we can use the same technique to help sweep those who are hearing the voices? Carry a small printer and laptop, print out a file that says "Clean". :) Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hawkspirit" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 7:16 PM Subject: [TSCM-L] Lie detector > > > > > Police in Radnor, PA interrogated a suspect by placing a metal colander on > his head and connecting it with wires to a photocopy machine. The > message, > "He's lying" was placed in the copier and police pressed the copy button > each time they thought the suspect wasn't telling the truth. Believing > the > "lie detector" was working, the suspect confessed. > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005 > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > VAH! DENUONE LATINE LOQUEBAR? > ME INEPTUM. INTERDUM MODO ELABITUR. > =================================================== TSKS > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TSCM-L/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > TSCM-L-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > 11032 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Wed Feb 9, 2005 1:54am Subject: Further Wisdom of the Ages Next time someone implies that something that is part of your future vision is impossible, improbable or even impractical, remember this list. (And perhaps quote them a favorite selection!) Enjoy the "wisdom of the ages". ************************************************* "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 15 tons." --"Popular Mechanics," forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949. ---------------------------------------------------- "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." --Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943. ---------------------------------------------------- "I have traveled the length and breadth of this country... and talked with the best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a fad that won't last out the year." --The editor in charge of business books for Prentice Hall, 1957. ------------------------------------------------------ "But what...is it good for ?" -- Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM commenting on the microchip, 1968. ------------------------------------------------------ "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 --------------------------------------------------- "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us." -- Western Union internal memo, 1876. ----------------------------------------------------- "The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to nobody in particular ?" -- David Sarnoff's associates (NBC) in response to his urgings for investment in the radio in the 1920s. --------------------------------------------------- "The concept is interesting and well-formed, but in order to earn better than a 'C,' the idea must be feasible." -- A Yale University management professor in response to Fred Smith's paper proposing reliable overnight delivery service. (Smith went on to found Federal Express Corp.) ----------------------------------------------------- "Who the hell wants to hear actors talk ?" -- Harry M. Warner, Warner Brothers, 1927. ------------------------------------------------------- "I'm just glad it'll be Clark Gable who's falling on his face and not Gary Cooper." --Gary Cooper on his decision not to take the leading role in "Gone with the Wind." ------------------------------------------------------- "A cookie store is a bad idea. Besides, the market research reports say America likes crispy cookies, not soft and chewy cookies like you make." -- Response to Debbi Fields' idea of starting her company, Mrs. Fields' Cookies. ---------------------------------------------------- "We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out." -- Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962. ------------------------------------------------------ "Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible." --Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895. ----------------------------------------------------- "If I had thought about it, I wouldn't have done the experiment. The literature was full of examples that said you can't do this." -- Spencer Silver, on the work that led to nthe unique adhesives on 3-M "Post-It" Notepads. --------------------------------------------------------- "So we went to Atari and said, 'Hey, we've got this amazing thing, even built with some of your parts, and what do you think about funding us ? Or we'll give it to you. We just want to do it. Pay our salary, we'll come work for you.' And they said, 'No.' So then we went to Hewlett- Packard, and they said, 'Hey, we don't need you; you haven't got through college yet.'" --Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari and H-P interested in his and Steve Wozniak's personal computer. ------------------------------------------------------- "Professor Goddard does not know the relation between action and reaction... and the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to react. He seems to lack the basic knowledge ladled out daily in high schools." -- New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard's revolutionary rocket work, 1921. ------------------------------------------------------ "You want to have consistent and uniform muscle development across all of your muscles ? It can't be done. It's just a fact of life. You just have to accept inconsistent muscle development as an unalterable condition of weight training." -- Response to Arthur Jones, who solved the "unsolvable" problem by inventing Nautilus. ------------------------------------------------------- "Drill for oil ? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil ? You're crazy." -- Drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill for oil in 1859. ------------------------------------------------------ "Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau." -- Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929. --------------------------------------------------------- "Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value." -- Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre. -------------------------------------------------------- "Everything that can be invented has been invented." -- Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899. ------------------------------------------------------ "Louis Pasteur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction." --Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872. --------------------------------------------------------- "The abdomen, the chest and the brain will forever be shut from the intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon." --Sir John Eric Ericksen, British surgeon, appointed Surgeon-Extraordinary to Queen Victoria, 1873. --------------------------------------------------------- "640k ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981 --------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11033 From: Tim Johnson Date: Wed Feb 9, 2005 8:28am Subject: More iPod uses I just posted the following to my personal e-mail list and thought it might be of interest to the TSCM-L group. Tim ================ I have over 11 gig of information from my laptop I back up to my 40 gig iPod weekly thru a 2.0 USB cable available form Apple for $19.95. It is the cheapest source of a large file back up I found. I take my iPod as I travel for speeches that use power point presentations and etc. Most all speech places now have a laptop and projector..This also keeps your information safer than loading it to the local available laptop. No need to carry a laptop thru the airport anymore!. ================= For those wondering what other nefarious uses an iPod could be used for, I suggest attending CanSecWest, they are going to have a briefing on hacking with iPods and other Firewire utilities. Firewire/i.Link is well known as a way for connecting video devices or external hard-disks to computers. One little known fact is that the Firewire protocol also allows to read and write physical memory on connected machines without further software support. This can be leveraged to escalate privileges or to spy on connected machines. We will present some fun software using FireWire to do things to computers which shouldn't happen. 0wn3d by an iPod: http://www.cansecwest.com/speakers.html -- Tim Johnson Technical Security Consultants Inc. PO Box 1295 Carrollton, GA 30112 770-836-4898 770-712-2164 Cell What you say in private is your business. Keeping it private is ours. Georgia License # PDC 002074 Technical Security Consultants Inc. MemberINTELNET Espionage Research Institute Association of Former Office of Special Investigations Special Agents-Technical Agent http://www.dbugman.com This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Neither this information block, the typed name of the sender, or anything else in this message is intended to constitute an electronic signature for purposes of the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act or the Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act (E-Sign) unless a specific statement to the contrary is included in this message. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 11034 From: John Young Date: Wed Feb 9, 2005 11:36am Subject: Olney Jim, I'm not sure of the Olney facility location. Could you look at this sat photo on Terraserver to see if this is the facility? http://www.terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=11&Z=18&X=794&Y=10851&W=3&q s=%7claytonsville%7cmd%7c Somebody wrote the facility is on Riggs Rd, which the photo shows as adjoining this place. If this is the right location I've got a couple of more recent sat photos from Globe Explorer. Thanks very much, John 11035 From: Dragos Ruiu Date: Wed Feb 9, 2005 7:19pm Subject: Re: More iPod uses On February 9, 2005 06:28 am, Tim Johnson wrote: > For those wondering what other nefarious uses an iPod could be used for, I > suggest attending CanSecWest, they are going to have a briefing on hacking > with iPods and other Firewire utilities. > > Firewire/i.Link is well known as a way for connecting video devices or > external hard-disks to computers. One little known fact is that the > Firewire protocol also allows to read and write physical memory on > connected machines without further software support. This can be leveraged > to escalate privileges or to spy on connected machines. We will present > some fun software using FireWire to do things to computers which shouldn't > happen. > > 0wn3d by an iPod: > http://www.cansecwest.com/speakers >.html The same class of vulnerability applies in many areas... and has some suprising applications, both beneficial and malicious. There are actually two presentations in that area this year... those are among the ones that have already been announced. (some announcements still remain) cheers, --dr -- World Security Pros. Cutting Edge Training, Tools, and Techniques Vancouver, CanadaMay 4-6 2005 http://cansecwest.com pgpkey http://dragos.com/ kyxpgp 11036 From: David C Williams Date: Wed Feb 9, 2005 0:57pm Subject: Need Forensic Alarm expert for a commercial theft- California I am posting this request for another pi so please email him only (not me) so I can forward the responses on to him. Greg Barker at gbarker@l... with a telephone number of (800)371-3171 looking for a forensic alarm specialist. One of their clients clients who is located in Northern California had a commercial theft over the weekend. Apparently the alarm was breached. They need someone to examine the alarm equipment and make a feasibility study of what happened. There client is requesting the alarm specialist. Please contact Greg Barker only(and not me) at either his email of office phone. Thanks. David C. Williams DCW & Associates 7400 Center Avenue, Suite 209 Huntington Beach, CA 92647 (714)892-0442 Fax (714)892-3543 CA PI License # PI 12300 Website: www.dcwpi.com Email: dwilliams@d... Driver Record/Vehicle Registration/Automated Name Index Information for California Serving Southern California's Investigative, Process Service and Computer Security Needs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 11037 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Wed Feb 9, 2005 11:01pm Subject: Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam I would like to give away more free copies of the movie "The Passion of the Christ" to those members of theTSCM-L list who would like a copy, AND who will promise to watch it. No sales gimmicks, no games, no kidding, no fooling, no tie ins, no strings, no payday, no gratuity, no favors, no preaching, nadda. All I ask is that you watch the movie, nothing more. Please email me your address privately if you would like a free copy, but I have to ask that you only request one copy, and that the address to which it ships be limited to either the U.S. or Canada (the DVD will not play outside of those regions). This is my gift to members of the list, and I expect nothing in return. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam -jma ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11038 From: Mitch D Date: Wed Feb 9, 2005 11:37pm Subject: Re: Anyone know this new Yahoo-group (Email-tracer) another waste of bandwith from the pi spyshop --- contranl wrote > Just got note of this new Yahoo group called Email-tracer > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emailtracer/ > > This is is what it's about: > > "This group is being set up for professional private > investigators > who trace Emails for clients or want to learn how to do it. I > know > you will like this resource" ===== Mitch Davis TSCM/Special Operations Group Inc. Nashville,TN.USA MitchD@t... site:www.tscmusa.com. Tel (615)837-9933 FAX (615) 523-0300 Cell(615) 364-6776 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 11039 From: Mark W. Kiefner Date: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:42am Subject: RE: Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam Thanks, kiefnem@c... -----Original Message----- From: James M. Atkinson [mailto:jmatk@t...] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:01 AM To: TSCM-L Subject: [TSCM-L] Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam I would like to give away more free copies of the movie "The Passion of the Christ" to those members of theTSCM-L list who would like a copy, AND who will promise to watch it. No sales gimmicks, no games, no kidding, no fooling, no tie ins, no strings, no payday, no gratuity, no favors, no preaching, nadda. All I ask is that you watch the movie, nothing more. Please email me your address privately if you would like a free copy, but I have to ask that you only request one copy, and that the address to which it ships be limited to either the U.S. or Canada (the DVD will not play outside of those regions). This is my gift to members of the list, and I expect nothing in return. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam -jma ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" VAH! DENUONE LATINE LOQUEBAR? ME INEPTUM. INTERDUM MODO ELABITUR. =================================================== TSKS Yahoo! Groups Links 11040 From: Thomas Kellar Date: Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:38am Subject: Re: Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam Sorry, that is anti-semitic crap. Goodbye. On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, James M. Atkinson wrote: > I would like to give away more free copies of the movie "The Passion of the > Christ" to those members of theTSCM-L list who would like a copy, AND who > will promise to watch it. > > No sales gimmicks, no games, no kidding, no fooling, no tie ins, no > strings, no payday, no gratuity, no favors, no preaching, nadda. All I ask > is that you watch the movie, nothing more. > > Please email me your address privately if you would like a free copy, but I > have to ask that you only request one copy, and that the address to which > it ships be limited to either the U.S. or Canada (the DVD will not play > outside of those regions). > > This is my gift to members of the list, and I expect nothing in return. > > Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam > > -jma > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 > Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 > 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ > Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and > Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > VAH! DENUONE LATINE LOQUEBAR? > ME INEPTUM. INTERDUM MODO ELABITUR. > =================================================== TSKS > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >