From: David Alexander Date: Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:01am Subject: RE: Short and Sweet and ours ! David Alexander Dbi Consulting Ltd Stoneleigh Park Mews Stoneleigh Abbey Kenilworth Warwickshire England Office: 01926 515515 Mobile: 07836 332576 Email : David.Alexander@d... Have you visited our website? http://www.dbiconsulting.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: James M. Atkinson [mailto:jmatk@t...] > Sent: 20 March 2003 12:14 > To: TSCM-L Mailing List > Subject: [TSCM-L] Short and Sweet > > > > Support our Troops. > > -jma > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------ > The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and The Most Complete TSCM, > Bug Sweep, Spy Hunting, and Counterintelligence Site on the Internet. > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------ > James M. 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And my son from my first marriage, 4 yrs. USN and a dual national of US and UK. Jerry Keenan ----- Original Message ----- From: David Alexander To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:01 AM Subject: RE: [TSCM-L] Short and Sweet and ours ! David Alexander Dbi Consulting Ltd Stoneleigh Park Mews Stoneleigh Abbey Kenilworth Warwickshire England Office: 01926 515515 Mobile: 07836 332576 Email : David.Alexander@d... Have you visited our website? http://www.dbiconsulting.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: James M. 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'Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: gkeenan To: David.Alexander@d... ; TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] Short and Sweet Amen!! Jerry Keenan, PO1, USN, Ret. and wife CPO, USN-R, Ret. And my son from my first marriage, 4 yrs. USN and a dual national of US and UK. Jerry Keenan ----- Original Message ----- From: David Alexander To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:01 AM Subject: RE: [TSCM-L] Short and Sweet and ours ! David Alexander Dbi Consulting Ltd Stoneleigh Park Mews Stoneleigh Abbey Kenilworth Warwickshire England Office: 01926 515515 Mobile: 07836 332576 Email : David.Alexander@d... Have you visited our website? http://www.dbiconsulting.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: James M. 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Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7056 From: A Grudko Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 10:39pm Subject: Jamming I hear that the American military are jamming the 3 Iraq Satellite TV channels & transmitting their own programmes - 16ghz 1kw uplink from Kuwait. Could be an urban legend but could also be the reason that the Iraqis appear to have launched short range conventional missiles at Kuwait today. Andy Grudko (British), Grad I.S, South Africa Registered as a security service provider by the Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority, registration number 8642 www.grudko.com , andy@g... . Est. 1981. International investigations (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax). IPA, SACI, WAD, CALI, UKPIN, IWWA. When you need it done right - first time 7057 From: Fernando Martins Date: Thu Mar 20, 2003 5:30pm Subject: Re: US keeping on eye on the EU...or rather an ear ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ocean Group - MU TSD" To: "TSCM Group" Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:57 AM Subject: [TSCM-L] US keeping on eye on the EU...or rather an ear > > > Hmm......wonder who they use for their sweeps? Any ideas? If anyone digs up > the Le Figaro article I would appreciate a copy....... They use the security services of the European Council. For now it seems that they are not quite sure about the source of the bugs, if they are US or not. The portuguese office didn't had that problem, so it seems. People say that the PBX of the Justus Lipsius building have extra ears since the beginning. Those are the only things I can add, from the portuguese news. FM 7058 From: Jeff Moss Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 0:17am Subject: DEF CON Announcement: CFP, Media now on line! Hello everyone, I would like to make several DEF CON related announcements. The Call For Papers for speaking at DEF CON ELEVEN (or XI, 0x0B, 1.1, 11) is now on-line and in effect. Continuing last year, we will continue to pay speakers. We are also continuing to improve speaker quality. It is no longer enough to have green hair and an attitude. Check it out at: http://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-11/defcon-11-cfp.html The speeches from DEF CON 0a are now on-line with the DEF CON media server. 90% of the talks are encoded with Real Helix and should be at a better resolution than past media. The missing talks are being hunted down now and re-encoded. Only video is currently available, with the audio only encoding to follow. Listen to 60+ talks spanning privacy, wireless, hacking, network defense and more! DEF CON 0a Media: http://www.defcon.org/html/links/defcon-media-archives.html#DEF CON 10 Solicitation for papers, stories, and art: Contrary to rumors on IRC, DEF CON is not starting a publication. What we are doing is expanding the show program to be more of than just a show guide since last year's program with the added articles was such a huge hit. As such we are looking for serious technical articles, relating to the underground scene, privacy, computer security, humor, stories, and art. Go to http://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-11/defcon-11-program.html Thank you, Jeff 7059 From: Steve Uhrig Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 9:58am Subject: Listen to the war live - R8500 RX FS And I don't mean CNN. If you've wanted a reason to buy a *cellular unblocked* ICOM R8500 receiver, here's another: The R8500 is an excellent HF, VHF and UHF receiver. It covers all the shortwave (HF) bands where worldwide military communications take place. Throw some wire out the window, and it's fairly simple to hear both friendly and hostile military comms from the Middle East, drug cartels in Latin America, NASA operations. Radio Kuwait, shortwave broadcast from small and large countries, propoganda, etc. Also amateur (ham radio) communications frequently called upon in disaster situations to back up government and commercial commo. Few scanners or other receivers cover the HF bands (100kc -- 30 megacycles). You need USB (Upper SideBand) coverage as well as AM. While some traffic is encrypted, most is not. 11.175 is the CB Channel 19 equivalent with military coordination. Hear refueling, missile launches, base to base commo, aircraft to base. This is intended to be a long range channel, and is fairly strong here in Maryland on the East Coast most of the time. Listen for an hour and you'll hear something, as it's happening, with all the stress and professionalism in the voices. I'm constantly turning CNN down to listen when something comes up on 11.175. That's one of many freqs. More can be found here: http://www.milaircomms.com/ghfs.html http://www.milaircomms.com/middle_east_shortwave.html Many others. It's also interesting to listen to the shortwave broadcasts from other countries. You get a whole different slant on world events when seen through the eyes of others. Radio Havana still talks about the U.S. pigs. Lot of propoganda. Still jamming stations. Still U.S. pirate stations just above 7.3 megacycles. It's all there for the effort of tuning. I'm only using a discone on the roof on mine, and it hears reasonably well, plenty enough for SWLing (Short Wave Listening). With an ICOM R8500, not only do you get a very decent HF radio which can monitor all HF frequencies, you get a full coverage VHF and UHF radio which does not have the critical cellular frequencies blocked. While listening to cell is blah, eavesdroppers have taken advantage of the inability of most receivers to cover this area around 800-900 megacycles. The receiver covers ALL frequencies from 0.1 to 2000 megacycles. Go here for full specs and a photo of the R8500: http://www.icomamerica.com/receivers/tabletop/icr8500.html Also a photo. The receiver can serve many purposes. You can use it for SWLing, as a demodulator for your spectrum analyzer, as a manual sweep receiver, as a VHF/UHF public safety scanner, to listen to the audio portion of broadcast television stations, data and 43X and 900 megacycle transmissions -- ANYTHING within the frequency range. Some exotic modes can be covered by using optional decoders. The R8500 is significantly more sensitive than most sweep equipment. It's designed to hear signals from all over the world, not just in the room. Once your TSCM gear identifies a signal, disassemble it with the R8500 and see for sure what it is. Unblocked (full coverage) receivers are restricted sale to government agencies only. TSCM practitioners do not qualify to purchase this necessary piece of equipment. The pieces I have are slightly used, generally one weekend only in a government listening post, then taken in by me on trade, alignment completely checked from antenna to speaker, and we improve on factory specs by a noticeable amount. The factory assembly robot tunes close enough to meet spec. We go through manually and tune for best performance, which almost always is significantly better than spec. You'll appreciate the difference. The receiver is powered by 110VAC or 12VDC. 220 VAC available on request. Price for these restricted recievers, legal to sell as used items is $1850. A versatile, rugged, capable receiver with many applications for anyone involved in surveillance, communications or security. This receiver is a standard in surveillance vans, and most TSCM teams will have this or an older model to tune in signals identified with the TSCM equipment. 25 years ago, all sweeping was manual and was done with Mason receivers which were not as capable as this thing. Optional video demodulators, spectrum monitor readouts, speech synthesizers, software, etc. are available from various vendors if you have a special application. Can take credit cards and ship internationally. Something to do with your tax return. A basic tool in any sweep kit that doesn't just sit there between sweeps. As a special, any receiver ordered referencing this email before the end of March will be shipped free in the U.S. via priority mail. Save about fifty bucks in freight and insurance and get it while all the interesting listening is there for the effort of hooking the thing up and tuning. Supply of these unblocked receivers is *very* limited as they are restricted sale to government only. Discone antennas also available which are a perfect match for this receiver, and what I use here at the office as well as in the field. $125 includes a reusable shipping tube. Antenna assembles and disassembles in a minute or two. Ask on this list for references. Holler if any questions. Steve ******************************************************************* Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 "In God we trust, all others we monitor" ******************************************************************* 7060 From: Rick Hofmann - MICROSEARCH Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 10:13pm Subject: R8500 receivers from SWS Security I bought an Icom R8500 from Steve Uhrig two or three years ago. When it arrived I thought he had made a mistake and sent me a new one. It came in the original box with all the original plastic bags, twist ties and foam packing material. I called to tell him he made a mistake, but was advised that it was definitely a used receiver. I have since bought additional used equipment from Steve and it has all arrived in perfect condition. I would not hesitate to recommend buying used equipment from SWS Security. Very truly yours, Rick Hofmann, CCO, CPP, PI16998 MICROSEARCH, LLC - Electronic Surveillance Detection - Counterespionage Post Office Box 2084 - Cypress, California 90630 714-952-3812 Fax: 714-209-0037 http://home.earthlink.net/~microsearch 7061 From: Matt Paulsen Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 1:50am Subject: RE: Jamming Well, I'll confirm that Iraq TV's official website is hacked http://www.iraqtv.ws - saw it a few days ago.. INA's website was timing out as well back then.. http://www.uruklink.net I think it was being DDoS'd around then, now it's probably rubble. -----Original Message----- From: A Grudko [mailto:agrudko@i...] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:40 PM To: TSCM Group Subject: [TSCM-L] Jamming I hear that the American military are jamming the 3 Iraq Satellite TV channels & transmitting their own programmes - 16ghz 1kw uplink from Kuwait. Could be an urban legend but could also be the reason that the Iraqis appear to have launched short range conventional missiles at Kuwait today. Andy Grudko (British), Grad I.S, South Africa Registered as a security service provider by the Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority, registration number 8642 www.grudko.com , andy@g... . Est. 1981. International investigations (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax). IPA, SACI, WAD, CALI, UKPIN, IWWA. When you need it done right - first time ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 7062 From: Graham Lorax Bignell Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 3:33pm Subject: Delta Force Hacks Saddam "news" of ops. http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030321-020114-4031r Secret op targeted Saddam By Richard Sale, UPI Intelligence Correspondent Published 3/21/2003 3:32 PM A top-secret U.S. intelligence operation, working in Baghdad weeks before the war, provided the crucial targeting information vital to the attempt to kill Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein early Thursday, administration officials said. The highly clandestine targeting effort, directed at top Iraq leaders, involved specialized CIA and military teams under command of the CIA, these sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity. A senior, former covert operative of the CIA told United Press International that the "most important" information was obtained by a small group of Delta operatives who infiltrated a fiber optic communication center in Baghdad, compromising its communications. "They were able to triangulate phone calls and determine their point of origin," this source said. Fiberoptic lines are considered one of the most secure forms of telephone communications, according to a former Bell Atlantic official. Delta Forces are part of the Joint Special Operations Command based at Fort Bragg, N.C. Two administration officials with access to sensitive intelligence told UPI that Saddam and his two sons definitely were in one of the three buildings of the compound in a Baghdad suburb when it was flattened by bombs from F-117 fighters and cruise missiles from U.S. ships and submarines early Thursday Iraq time. The attack came after expiration of an ultimatum from U.S. President George W. Bush that Saddam and his sons leave Iraq or face war. "Saddam was in the building when that stuff went off," said one U.S. official. Another U.S. official said: "Within the (intelligence) community there is a general belief that Saddam is still alive, and the rest is wishful thinking." An administration official said it was believed Saddam had suffered damage to one of his inner ears. One former senior U.S. intelligence official said that the administration is examining "highly credible" reports that Saddam's son, Qusay, had been killed in the raid. An administration official acknowledged the report is in "circulation" but said: "We don't know yet if it's accurate." A former senior CIA analyst, who said he also thinks that Qusay is dead, pointed to a quote Saddam made in his broadcast after the attack in which the Iraqi leader said: "This family has sacrificed in this war." The former senior analyst said he believed this was a reference to Qusay's death. "I'm surprised more people haven't picked up on this," he said. Qusay, 37, a low-key personality known by critics as Mr. Snake, was being groomed by Saddam to be his successor, U.S. officials said. In addition to Qusay's death, an administration official said there were "very credible reports" that Izzet al Douri, the red-headed commander of Iraq's Northern Region, had also been killed in the raid. "We have the reports on these people; we don't have an definite answer yet," this official said. Administration officials also said that it was definitely Saddam who appeared Friday in broadcast on Iraqi TV. According to U.S. government officials, the CIA-directed intelligence collection effort was tasked to focus on Iraqi military and residential sites used by the senior leadership for meetings and get-togethers. A congressional staffer told UPI: "We know that certain places in Baghdad were kept under visual surveillance by U.S. intelligence -- both human and technical surveillance." The CIA/military teams consisted of operatives, many of whom are black or Middle Easterners "who could pass for Iraqis -- they were swarthy, fluent in Arabic, knew the dialects," according to one former senior CIA official. Saddam, for example, speaks Arabic with a heavy Tikrit accent, he said. Tikrit is Saddam's hometown. Arabic-speaking analysts from the Defense Intelligence Agency made a key contribution in putting together "the final targeting package," a former senior Pentagon official said. Copyright © 2001-2003 United Press International --- Graham "Lorax" Bignell - 416 366 9755 1024D/57A07181 = CF49 889B 9266 030C F0FD 7298 30B6 98D5 57A0 7181 7063 From: Hawkspirit Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 1:17pm Subject: Sweep Needed Sweep needed for a residence in the Detroit MI area, contact me asap if you are interested in handling this assignment. Roger Tolces Electronic Security Co. Los Angeles www.bugsweeps.com 7064 From: Wayne T Work Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 11:21am Subject: RE: Jamming Well, Not sure I can confirm that this is a TRUE Iraqi website since it is hosted and DNS here is the US (See below data -- Note no hopes out of US. Might have to write a nasty gram to Register.com about hosting websites that could be tied to anti American activities. Just thought you all might want this data. 03/22/03 12:14:04 Spade Log 03/22/03 12:15:51 dig www.iraqtv.ws @ 204.60.0.2 Dig www.iraqtv.ws@d... (216.21.226.84) ... Authoritative Answer Query for www.iraqtv.ws type=255 class=1 www.iraqtv.ws CNAME (Canonical Name) iraqtv.ws iraqtv.ws NS (Nameserver) dns27.register.com iraqtv.ws NS (Nameserver) dns28.register.com Dig www.iraqtv.ws@d... (216.21.234.84) ... Authoritative Answer Query for www.iraqtv.ws type=255 class=1 www.iraqtv.ws CNAME (Canonical Name) iraqtv.ws iraqtv.ws NS (Nameserver) dns27.register.com iraqtv.ws NS (Nameserver) dns28.register.com Dig www.iraqtv.ws@2... ... Non-authoritative answer Recursive queries supported by this server Query for www.iraqtv.ws type=255 class=1 www.iraqtv.ws CNAME (Canonical Name) iraqtv.ws iraqtv.ws NS (Nameserver) dns27.register.com iraqtv.ws NS (Nameserver) dns28.register.com dns27.register.com A (Address) 216.21.234.84 dns28.register.com A (Address) 216.21.226.84 03/22/03 12:15:06 Fast traceroute www.iraqtv.ws Trace www.iraqtv.ws (216.21.224.200) ... 1 64.252.71.254 38ms 24ms 177ms TTL: 0 (64-252-71-254.adsl.snet.net ok) 2 66.159.184.226 25ms 24ms 86ms TTL: 0 (dist1-vlan60.mrdnct.sbcglobal.net ok) 3 66.159.184.116 * * 22ms TTL: 0 (bb2-g6-0.mrdnct.sbcglobal.net ok) 4 151.164.188.241 32ms 31ms 33ms TTL: 0 (bb1-p9-0.hrndva.sbcglobal.net ok) 5 151.164.243.26 32ms 239ms 33ms TTL: 0 (bb2-p15-0.hrndva.sbcglobal.net ok) 6 151.164.243.201 218ms 242ms 208ms TTL: 0 (bb2-p13-0.nycmny.sbcglobal.net ok) 7 151.164.243.17 69ms 178ms * TTL: 0 (bb1-p15-0.nycmny.sbcglobal.net ok) 8 144.223.26.201 * 83ms 74ms TTL: 0 (sl-gw31-nyc-11-0.sprintlink.net ok) 9 144.232.13.35 208ms 33ms 32ms TTL: 0 (sl-bb27-nyc-12-0.sprintlink.net ok) 10 144.232.13.173 50ms 32ms 33ms TTL: 0 (sl-bb24-nyc-8-0.sprintlink.net ok) 11 144.232.9.118 34ms 32ms 32ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 12 206.24.207.230 171ms * 31ms TTL: 0 (bhr1-pos-10-0.Jerseycitynj1.cw.net ok) 13 216.32.223.42 39ms 32ms 31ms TTL: 0 (csr21-ve240.Jerseycitynj1.cw.net ok) 14 216.32.193.106 110ms 33ms 31ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 15 216.21.224.200 163ms 34ms 33ms TTL:244 (No rDNS) 03/22/03 12:14:10 IP block www.iraqtv.ws Trying 216.21.224.200 at ARIN Trying 216.21.224 at ARIN OrgName: Register.com, Inc OrgID: REG Address: 575 8th Avenue City: New York StateProv: NY PostalCode: 10018 Country: US NetRange: 216.21.224.0 - 216.21.239.255 CIDR: 216.21.224.0/20 NetName: RCOM-1BLK NetHandle: NET-216-21-224-0-1 Parent: NET-216-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: DNS1.REGISTER.COM NameServer: DNS2.REGISTER.COM NameServer: DNS3.REGISTER.COM NameServer: DNS4.REGISTER.COM Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE RegDate: 2000-06-28 Updated: 2000-06-28 TechHandle: CK296-ARIN TechName: Kleban, Chris TechPhone: +1-212-798-9100 TechEmail: chris@r... OrgAbuseHandle: CUSTO-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Customer Service OrgAbusePhone: +1-800-899-9724 OrgAbuseEmail: support@r... OrgNOCHandle: NOC207-ARIN OrgNOCName: Network Operations Center OrgNOCPhone: +1-902-749-2488 OrgNOCEmail: ops@r... OrgTechHandle: NETWO55-ARIN OrgTechName: Network Engineering OrgTechPhone: +1-212-798-9100 OrgTechEmail: neteng@r... # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-03-21 20:00 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. Wayne T Work CISSP (Work) 203.217.5004 (Fax) 208-545-4365 Owner and Sr. Information Systems Security Consultant Security Gauntlet Consulting www.securitygauntlet.com -----Original Message----- From: Matt Paulsen [mailto:mpaulsen6@a...] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 2:51 AM To: TSCM Group Subject: RE: [TSCM-L] Jamming Well, I'll confirm that Iraq TV's official website is hacked http://www.iraqtv.ws - saw it a few days ago.. INA's website was timing out as well back then.. http://www.uruklink.net I think it was being DDoS'd around then, now it's probably rubble. -----Original Message----- From: A Grudko [mailto:agrudko@i...] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:40 PM To: TSCM Group Subject: [TSCM-L] Jamming I hear that the American military are jamming the 3 Iraq Satellite TV channels & transmitting their own programmes - 16ghz 1kw uplink from Kuwait. Could be an urban legend but could also be the reason that the Iraqis appear to have launched short range conventional missiles at Kuwait today. Andy Grudko (British), Grad I.S, South Africa Registered as a security service provider by the Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority, registration number 8642 www.grudko.com , andy@g... . Est. 1981. International investigations (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax). IPA, SACI, WAD, CALI, UKPIN, IWWA. When you need it done right - first time ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------ Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7065 From: Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 2:40am Subject: Envoy in Myanmar Finds Listening Device Envoy in Myanmar Finds Listening Device By AYE AYE WIN .c The Associated Press YANGON, Myanmar (AP) - A visiting U.N. human rights envoy on Monday suspended his mission to Myanmar after finding a bugging device while conducting confidential interviews with political prisoners. The envoy, Paulo Sergio Pinheiro of Brazil, said he found the bug while talking to political prisoners in Insein prison outside Yangon on Saturday. Pinheiro told reporters he was leaving Yangon later Monday, two days ahead of schedule. ``I think that was a very serious incident and my untimely departure is an expression of my anger and frustration,'' he said, pounding the table with his fist. ``I hope the government will demonstrate its willingness to continue to cooperate with the commission on human rights.'' The envoy said he found a wireless microphone under the table in the room where he was conducting an interview. ``The authorities expressed regret on learning of the incident,'' according to a statement from the United Nations. ``They gave the assurance that the incident would be investigated in full.'' Pinheiro arrived in Yangon on Wednesday to investigate allegations of human rights abuses and evaluate the conditions of an estimated 1,000 political prisoners in the nation also known as Burma. A foreign diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Pinheiro was ``shocked and upset'' when the device was found after he and his two colleagues heard a strange noise under the table. Before interviewing the prisoners, Pinheiro had assured each person he or she could speak freely, the diplomat said. The visit was one of a series of visits to compile a report scheduled to be delivered to the U.N. Human Rights Commission in Geneva at the end of the month. Myanmar's junta has also faced criticism for failing to make progress in its reconciliation process with opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi. Her party won the 1990 general elections but was never allowed to take power. Critics say the junta is not serious about restoring democracy. 03/24/03 07:10 EST [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7066 From: Matt Paulsen Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:21am Subject: Life sentence for failed spy. From infocon's daily pdf... 37. March 21, Associated Press - Life sentence for failed spy. A retired Air Force master sergeant was sentenced to life in prison without parole on Thursday for offering to sell intelligence secrets to Iraq and China. Judge Gerald Bruce Lee of Federal District Court imposed the sentence, which was brokered by prosecutors and by lawyers for the defendant, Brian P. Regan. In the agreement, the government promised not to prosecute Regan's wife, Anette, and allowed her to keep part of Mr. Regan's military pension. Regan also agreed to tell the government about any classified information he might have given to other people or countries and to submit to lie detector tests. His wife also agreed to cooperate. Regan, 40, was convicted last month on two counts of attempted espionage and a charge of gathering national defense information. He was acquitted of trying to spy for Libya. Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/21/national/21SPY.html 7067 From: Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 4:25pm Subject: Alinco scanner radio Recently I acquired an Alinco DJ-X2000 scanner radio, which features a "transweeper" function, also field strength meter and frequency counter. I have found these functions to not be very useful and wish to ask whether other people have had more success with this make. My understanding is that transweeper looks for the audio it generates on RF as it sweeps; so it would only find simple analog bugs, not anything encoded or more sophisticated; is that right? In practice it seems to "find" bugs on various frequencies such as broadcast FM stations, reporting lots of false positives. Given that there are so many false positives, it would be impossible to guess what would be a genuine find. The field strength meter doesn't seem to work at all either, I held it next to a cordless phone transmitter and it showed nothing. 7068 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 1:04pm Subject: Message to Saddam Marine sending a message to Saddam http://www.tscm.com/saddammessage.jpg More to follow as they roll into Baghdad. *** Support Our Troops *** -jma -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and The Most Complete TSCM, Bug Sweep, Spy Hunting, and Counterintelligence Site on the Internet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Ph: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island GroupFax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008mailto:jmatk@t... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7069 From: Steve Uhrig Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 1:25pm Subject: Re: Alinco scanner radio On 23 Mar 2003 at 22:25, mist@p... wrote: > Recently I acquired an Alinco DJ-X2000 scanner radio, which features a > "transweeper" function, also field strength meter and frequency > counter. I have found these functions to not be very useful and wish > to ask whether other people have had more success with this make. The replies you received on the scanner newsgroup were pretty much right on. Your piece includes the transweeper function as a sales gimmick only. It essentially is worthless for any real world countersurveillance application. Use it as a scanner, or sell it and buy professional TSCM gear if that is what you need. However, before you spend any money, educate yourself so you buy armed with full knowledge. That won't happen in a day or a week. This is a good list to learn, just like learning to play the violin. Takes a while. First, define *realistically* what you need to do. Then identify FIRST the skills you will need to accomplish that task. Only after you have acquired the skills should you then think about equipment. The equipment does not do the work. What's between your ears does. The equipment is only a tool. Buying a tool before you know the job you need to do or have the skills to use that tool is not wise. A city born and bred yuppie shouldn't buy a chain saw to paint his walls. He should learn what tools are appropriate, then learn something about painting, then spend the money on tools. He won't know the appropriate tools to buy until he learns about painting. In the process of learning you also learn what tools you do, and do not, need. Actually the above is a lousy analogy, as painting is not nearly as critical as bug sweeping. You miss a bug and there could be serious consequences. And without training, you WILL miss things regardless of the tools/hardware/equipment you have. There is no middle ground. You're either playing or you're serious. As long as you're honest with yourself and others, fine. If you just have an interest in the subject matter or the profession with no practical application, fine, there's lots of info here. If you're serious, or want to be, and are willing to pay your dues and do it properly, you'll also find a lot of resources here. The archives of this list will teach you a lot and would be time well spent. Scan subjects and read any which look technical. You'll develop a feel for persons who know what they're talking about and can concentrate on their posts. With 1300+ members here and plenty of traffic, there is a lot in the archives so you need to refine your search criteria somehow. Remember there is a lot of noise level in any group, even more so in large ones. Regards ... Steve ******************************************************************* Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 "In God we trust, all others we monitor" ******************************************************************* 7070 From: Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:32am Subject: U.N. Aide in Myanmar Finds Bugging Device U.N. Aide in Myanmar Finds Bugging Device By AYE AYE WIN .c The Associated Press YANGON, Myanmar (AP) - A visiting U.N. human rights envoy on Monday suspended his mission to Myanmar and left the country after finding a bugging device while conducting confidential interviews with political prisoners. The envoy, Paulo Sergio Pinheiro of Brazil, said he found the bug while talking to political prisoners in Insein prison outside Yangon on Saturday. On finding the device he contacted the prison director before phoning the deputy foreign minister to register an official complaint. ``I think that was a very serious incident and my untimely departure is an expression of my anger and frustration,'' he said, pounding the table with his fist. ``I hope the government will demonstrate its willingness to continue to cooperate with the commission on human rights.'' The envoy said he found a wireless microphone under the table in the room where he was conducting an interview. Later Monday, Pinheiro flew out of Yangon, two days ahead of schedule. ``The authorities expressed regret on learning of the incident,'' according to a statement from the United Nations. ``They gave the assurance that the incident would be investigated in full.'' Pinheiro arrived in Yangon on Wednesday to investigate allegations of human rights abuses and evaluate the conditions of an estimated 1,000 political prisoners in the nation also known as Burma. A foreign diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Pinheiro was ``shocked and upset'' when the device was found after he and his two colleagues heard a strange noise under the table. Before interviewing the prisoners, Pinheiro had assured each person he or she could speak freely, the diplomat said. The visit was one of a series of visits to compile a report scheduled to be delivered to the U.N. Human Rights Commission in Geneva at the end of the month. Myanmar's junta has also faced criticism for failing to make progress in its reconciliation process with opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi. Her party won the 1990 general elections but was never allowed to take power. Critics say the junta is not serious about restoring democracy. 03/24/03 14:10 EST [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7071 From: Matt Paulsen Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 7:48pm Subject: hardware ks logger.. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/TechTV/techtv_keyboardspy030320.html I seem to remember someone once mentioning that hardware ks loggers were illegal, yet software ks loggers weren't. 7072 From: Matt Paulsen Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:32pm Subject: RE: Message to Saddam My contribution... http://parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk/~jmr/saddam.swf -----Original Message----- From: James M. Atkinson [mailto:jmatk@t...] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:04 AM To: TSCM-L Mailing List Subject: [TSCM-L] Message to Saddam Marine sending a message to Saddam http://www.tscm.com/saddammessage.jpg More to follow as they roll into Baghdad. *** Support Our Troops *** -jma -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and The Most Complete TSCM, Bug Sweep, Spy Hunting, and Counterintelligence Site on the Internet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- James M. Atkinson Ph: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island GroupFax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008mailto:jmatk@t... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 7073 From: Matt Paulsen Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 11:13pm Subject: humor...Got this recently Recently received this email regarding a dead box.... 'press F1 or F10 / the mousse is not moving and the keyboard is not functioning' 7074 From: kondrak Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 0:32am Subject: Hmm..heads up Re:James I think theres some hocus-pocus going on. I got an email (bout 2 hrs ago) referring to James, and some of the legal stuff he's embroiled in, and I couldn't either open it, nor delete it and it locked up Eudora tight. It DID however, come in under another mailbox, and not the TSCM one. (I use eudora and segregate incoming by mailbox) There was no name associated either, since I couldn't open it to see. The email had an attachment, and I had to crash out of eudora to get it out of locked mode. I ran the virus detector over the entire directory, and found nil. I've seen this before from other accounts (none on this list), and usually found virus activity associated with the email. Just a heads up to the list, in case someone else gets a weirdly acting email that has something pertaining to this group as a subject... At 21:13 3/24/03 -0800, you wrote: >Recently received this email regarding a dead box.... >'press F1 or F10 / the mousse is not moving and the keyboard is not >functioning' > > > > >======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. >=================================================== TSKS > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 7075 From: Marcel Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:01am Subject: Re: Hmm..heads up Re:James It was a PDF file- It came back clean- It was some nonsense- kondrak wrote: > I think theres some hocus-pocus going on. I got an email (bout 2 hrs ago) > referring to James, and some of the legal stuff he's embroiled in, and I > couldn't either open it, nor delete it and it locked up Eudora tight. It > DID however, come in under another mailbox, and not the TSCM one. (I use > eudora and segregate incoming by mailbox) There was no name associated > either, since I couldn't open it to see. > The email had an attachment, and I had to crash out of eudora to get it out > of locked mode. > I ran the virus detector over the entire directory, and found nil. I've > seen this before from other accounts (none on this list), and usually found > virus activity associated with the email. > > Just a heads up to the list, in case someone else gets a weirdly acting > email that has something pertaining to this group as a subject... > > At 21:13 3/24/03 -0800, you wrote: > >Recently received this email regarding a dead box.... > >'press F1 or F10 / the mousse is not moving and the keyboard is not > >functioning' > > > > > > > > > >======================================================== > > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > >=================================================== TSKS > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- "NEXTEL-1 IT'S NOT JUST NEXTEL" Note The New address Subscribe to Nextel-1: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL-1 "NEXTEL2 FOR iDEN SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS" Subscribe to Nextel2: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL2 "WIRELESS FORUM HOMELAND SECURITY GROUP" The Complete Resource for Wireless Homeland Security. Subscribe to WFHSG: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/WFHSG 7076 From: kondrak Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:39am Subject: RE: Hmm..heads up Re:James Ok, thanks for the update Matt. It didn't trigger either the .pdf reader nor the copy of adobe I've got here, so it must of had errors. It is interesting, at about the same time, I did note a virus on the mail check, it was not however, associated with that exact email. It was handled in the normal manner, terminated with extreme prejudice. ;) At 22:39 3/24/03 -0800, you wrote: >No virus.. just a pdf... Treat it like a zit. Pop it and it'll fester. >Ignore it and it will disappear. 7077 From: Fernando Martins Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:55am Subject: Re: Hmm..heads up Re:James In my case it was very funny because it was one of those bored times, and I was watching some cartoons in http://www.attrition.org/gallery/cartoons/ but then I was really really bored and start reading http://www.attrition.org/errata/charlatan.html well ... guess who is there? (just add #murphy to the url :) FM p.s. - i didn't read it all (was already bored ...), but the mail and attach had no virii 7078 From: William Knowles Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 5:01am Subject: Re: Hmm..heads up Re:James On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Fernando Martins wrote: > In my case it was very funny because it was one of those bored > times, > p.s. - i didn't read it all (was already bored ...), but the mail > and attach had no virii Yeah, I got it too, the .PDF was a joke, never have I seen anything so over copyrighted before, it made my eyes bleed, and that other attachment said it was a .rtf file but was so munged that I deleted that off the bat. If the said party is on the list, or has an operative reporting back, Please 'thank' them for sending me that 750K email, I only wish there was a better address than a throwaway e-mail account to bitch back upstream for sending that. - WK 7079 From: Does it matter Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:40pm Subject: Re: Alinco scanner radio Oh no now Steve is a violin player!!!!! --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Uhrig" wrote: > On 23 Mar 2003 at 22:25, mist@p... wrote: > > > Recently I acquired an Alinco DJ-X2000 scanner radio, which features a > > "transweeper" function, also field strength meter and frequency > > counter. I have found these functions to not be very useful and wish > > to ask whether other people have had more success with this make. > > The replies you received on the scanner newsgroup were pretty much > right on. > > Your piece includes the transweeper function as a sales gimmick only. > It essentially is worthless for any real world countersurveillance > application. > > Use it as a scanner, or sell it and buy professional TSCM gear if > that is what you need. However, before you spend any money, educate > yourself so you buy armed with full knowledge. That won't happen in a > day or a week. This is a good list to learn, just like learning to > play the violin. Takes a while. > > First, define *realistically* what you need to do. Then identify > FIRST the skills you will need to accomplish that task. Only after > you have acquired the skills should you then think about equipment. > > The equipment does not do the work. What's between your ears does. > The equipment is only a tool. Buying a tool before you know the job > you need to do or have the skills to use that tool is not wise. > > A city born and bred yuppie shouldn't buy a chain saw to paint his > walls. He should learn what tools are appropriate, then learn > something about painting, then spend the money on tools. He won't > know the appropriate tools to buy until he learns about painting. In > the process of learning you also learn what tools you do, and do not, > need. > > Actually the above is a lousy analogy, as painting is not nearly as > critical as bug sweeping. You miss a bug and there could be serious > consequences. And without training, you WILL miss things regardless > of the tools/hardware/equipment you have. > > There is no middle ground. You're either playing or you're serious. > As long as you're honest with yourself and others, fine. If you just > have an interest in the subject matter or the profession with no > practical application, fine, there's lots of info here. If you're > serious, or want to be, and are willing to pay your dues and do it > properly, you'll also find a lot of resources here. > > The archives of this list will teach you a lot and would be time well > spent. Scan subjects and read any which look technical. You'll > develop a feel for persons who know what they're talking about and > can concentrate on their posts. With 1300+ members here and plenty of > traffic, there is a lot in the archives so you need to refine your > search criteria somehow. > > Remember there is a lot of noise level in any group, even more so in > large ones. > > Regards ... Steve > > > ******************************************************************* > Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) > Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip > mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com > tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 > "In God we trust, all others we monitor" > ******************************************************************* 7080 From: Steve Uhrig Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:04am Subject: Re: Alinco scanner radio On 25 Mar 2003 at 3:40, Does it matter wrote: > Oh no now Steve is a violin player!!!!! And Steve had mentioned: > > Remember there is a lot of noise level in any group, even more so in > > large ones. Case in point. 7081 From: Steve Uhrig Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:59am Subject: Mason Mini Probe 5? Asking for a friend. Would anyone have a manual for this receiver? He would like a copy. Any leads on where to find one? Tks ... Steve ******************************************************************* Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 "In God we trust, all others we monitor" ******************************************************************* 7082 From: A Grudko Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:28pm Subject: Re: Aide in Myanmar Finds Device Journalists love a story, even if it probably does not make sense. ----- Original Message ----- > The envoy, Paulo Sergio Pinheiro of Brazil, said he found the bug while > talking to political prisoners in Insein prison outside Yangon on Saturday. ..... > The envoy said he found a wireless microphone under the table in the room > where he was conducting an interview. So there is this evil regiem that tortures political prisoners. They own and control the prison, including the room in which diplomats can interview political prisoners in private. They can install the most sophisticated concealed surveillance devices at thier leisure...and they plant a wireless room bug? > A foreign diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Pinheiro was > ``shocked and upset'' when the device was found after he and his two > colleagues heard a strange noise under the table. So not only a wireless room but but one which makes a strange noise - was it powered by a cockroach running on a treadmill? And Mr Pinheiro is qualified to identify a wireless room bug? I wonder if he was searched going in? > Before interviewing the prisoners, Pinheiro had assured each person he or she > could speak freely, the diplomat said. Real estate agents say " Position, position, position" Politicians say "Agenda, agenda. agenda". :-) Andy Grudko (British), Grad I.S, South Africa Registered as a security service provider by the Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority, registration number. 8642 www.grudko.com , andy@g... . Est. 1981. 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