From: Matthew Paulsen Date: Wed May 22, 2002 11:40pm Subject: Judge to rule Monday on playing of surveillance tape http://www.projo.com/trial/content/projo-20020517-ruling.96054611.html 05/17/2002 Associated Press PROVIDENCE / 10:15 a.m. -- The judge in the federal corruption trial of Mayor Vincent A. Cianci Jr. said he'll issue a ruling Monday on whether prosecutors can play a controversial surveillance tape. The tape is said to feature two of Cianci's former top aides, Thomas Rossi and Frank Corrente, discussing a range of charges against the mayor as well as Cianci's sex life. U.S. District Court Judge Ernest C. Torres said this morning it may be a partial ruling and could depend on prosecutors establishing that Corrente, Rossi and Cianci were part of a criminal conspiracy in City Hall. Federal prosecutors contend the tape shows Cianci and co-defendants Corrente, Richard Autiello and Edward Voccola were involved in a racketeering conspiracy. They have pleaded innocent to a 29-count indictment that charges them with bribery, extortion, racketeering, witness tampering and mail fraud. Defense lawyers said the tape is nothing more than hearsay punctuated by locker-room banter. The meeting at a Dunkin' Donuts in Cranston in July 1999 was captured on audiotape by Rossi, an aide to Cianci in the early 1990s who wore a wire for federal investigators. 5464 From: Hawkspirit Date: Thu May 23, 2002 10:23am Subject: Book Does anyone know the title of the book, by I think Tom Clancy, which was written a few years ago where in the plot terrorists hijack a plane and smash it into a structure? thanks, Roger 5465 From: ed Date: Thu May 23, 2002 10:49am Subject: RE: GSM monitoring platform At 04:34 AM 5/23/02 -0400, sig346@n... wrote: >Well, most probably it was an analog or digital cellular monitoring >system,- again MINOTORING in technical sense, not SURVEILLANCE - in other >words a some kind of emulator for checking the protocol, eye diagrams etc, >not for message substraction. again, there was a high-quality earphone velcroed with a strap inside the suitcase and connected to one of the WJ units. no displays or indicators, either. another one of the WJ units in this covert monitoring system had a RS232 interface for control and display purposes. -ed 5466 From: William Knowles Date: Thu May 23, 2002 11:41am Subject: Re: Book On Thu, 23 May 2002, Hawkspirit wrote: > Does anyone know the title of the book, by I think Tom Clancy, which > was written a few years ago where in the plot terrorists hijack a > plane and smash it into a structure? thanks, Roger The office Clancy fan points out that the two books were... Debt of Honor http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0425147584/c4iorg and... Executive Orders http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0425158632/c4iorg Debt of Honor covers the crash, and Executive Orders touches on the aftermath. Cheers! William Knowles wk@c... *==============================================================* "Communications without intelligence is noise; Intelligence without communications is irrelevant." Gen Alfred. M. Gray, USMC ================================================================ C4I.org - Computer Security, & Intelligence - http://www.c4i.org *==============================================================* 5467 From: gkeenan Date: Thu May 23, 2002 11:44am Subject: Re: Book That would probably be "the Sum of All Fears" where a Japanese commercial pilot hijacks his own plane out of BWI (I think), but before any passengers were aboard, and dives it into the Capitol Building wiping out all of Congress, the Senate, the President, etc. It's also an upcoming movie staring Ben Afflick and Lou Gossett. Jerry Keenan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hawkspirit" To: "TSCM" Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:23 AM Subject: [TSCM-L] Book > Does anyone know the title of the book, by I think Tom Clancy, which was > written a few years ago where in the plot terrorists hijack a plane and > smash it into a structure? thanks, Roger > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > 5468 From: gkeenan Date: Thu May 23, 2002 0:01pm Subject: Re: Book Yup - got my titles mixed up. The crash did happen in Debt of Honor. My mistake (I'll slap myself later! :)) Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Knowles" To: "Hawkspirit" Cc: "TSCM" Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] Book > On Thu, 23 May 2002, Hawkspirit wrote: > > > Does anyone know the title of the book, by I think Tom Clancy, which > > was written a few years ago where in the plot terrorists hijack a > > plane and smash it into a structure? thanks, Roger > > The office Clancy fan points out that the two books were... > > Debt of Honor > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0425147584/c4iorg > > and... > > Executive Orders > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0425158632/c4iorg > > Debt of Honor covers the crash, and Executive Orders touches on the > aftermath. > > Cheers! > > William Knowles > wk@c... > > > > *==============================================================* > "Communications without intelligence is noise; Intelligence > without communications is irrelevant." Gen Alfred. M. Gray, USMC > ================================================================ > C4I.org - Computer Security, & Intelligence - http://www.c4i.org > *==============================================================* > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > 5469 From: john schmitt Date: Thu May 23, 2002 10:56am Subject: Re: Book The following is from www.clancyfaq.com ************************ Want to read Clancy's book that had an airplane crashing into the Capitol? See Debt of Honor for the crash (and why it happened) and Executive Orders for the aftermath (in which JPR responds in much the same way that our President is now responding). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hawkspirit" To: "TSCM" Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:23 AM Subject: [TSCM-L] Book > Does anyone know the title of the book, by I think Tom Clancy, which was > written a few years ago where in the plot terrorists hijack a plane and > smash it into a structure? thanks, Roger > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > 5470 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Thu May 23, 2002 3:11pm Subject: Memorial Day 2002 At the very top of my website I have added a memorial day message and prayer that list members may find of interest: http://www.tscm.com/ I am profoundly grateful to those who gave their all so that we could be a free nation. God bless this nation, -jma -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and The Most Complete TSCM, Bug Sweep, Spy Hunting, and Counterintelligence Site on the Internet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. 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File : /CL-tomtakingstevespix.JPG Uploaded by : graniteislandgroup Description : Steve Uhrig and Tom Clancy1 You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TSCM-L/files/CL-tomtakingstevespix.JPG To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, graniteislandgroup 5472 From: Date: Thu May 23, 2002 10:56pm Subject: New file uploaded to TSCM-L Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the TSCM-L group. File : /CL-tomwithsteveslx.jpg Uploaded by : graniteislandgroup Description : More of Steve and Tom 3 You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TSCM-L/files/CL-tomwithsteveslx.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, graniteislandgroup 5473 From: Hawkspirit Date: Thu May 23, 2002 11:30pm Subject: Connecting the dots Thanks for the help gang, the Tom Clancy book was: Executive Orders (July 1987) by Tom Clancy Tom Clancy goes to the White House in this thriller of political terror and global disaster. The American political situation takes a disturbing turn as the President, Congress, and Supreme Court are obliterated when a Japanese terrorist lands a 747 on the Capitol. So Tom was connecting the dots back in 1987. Amazing, Roger 5474 From: kondrak Date: Fri May 24, 2002 3:44am Subject: test #2 while I receive this list, all of a sudden, I cant seem to post. This is a test. 5475 From: Fernando Martins Date: Fri May 24, 2002 3:09pm Subject: X-ray machines Even if a bit off topic, I hope I can get some help. I need references (tech info and vendors URL's) about X-ray machines and metal detection portals. The use of this devices is for prisons. Advices about system design, and common mistakes, are also wellcome. Thanks in advance FM 5476 From: Secdep Date: Fri May 24, 2002 11:40pm Subject: Re: X-ray machines Fernando Contact Steve UHRIG, steve@s... I know he sells portable X-Ray Machines. He should be able to point you in the right direction. Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Martins" To: Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: [TSCM-L] X-ray machines > Even if a bit off topic, I hope I can get some help. > I need references (tech info and vendors URL's) about X-ray machines and > metal detection portals. > The use of this devices is for prisons. > Advices about system design, and common mistakes, are also wellcome. > > Thanks in advance > > FM > > > > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > 5477 From: A Grudko Date: Sat May 25, 2002 3:36pm Subject: Note the date - Terrorist training OK, I've pulled out my own whistle and I am blowing it - see below - but heck, it's a lovely Saturday morning here in the mountains. I'm thinking of changing my name to Nostradamus ;-) Andy Grudko South Africa --------------- To: Sent: Thursday September 13, 2001 From : agrudko@i... > > There is evidence emerging that the hijackers had some flight > > training, but is that necessary? Once a modern aircraft is in the air, cruising, all > > that's required are small adjustments. Playing Microsoft's Flight Simulator, > > where you can choose any plane and condition, can very > > effectively learn to control an aircraft. Not only can you choose almost any Boeing craft but > > FLYING BETWEEN THE WTC TWIN TOWERS is a standard exercise on the New York > > version ! I recall that aeronautical engineer & pilot Miguel Pichol supported my theory on this list at that time. So yesterday: Handheld GPS devices may have been key to attack By Nicholas Wapshott / The Times of London 24 May 2002 New York - Credit card records of suicide hijacker Mohammed Atta show that he was in Manhattan the day before he crashed an aircraft into the World Trade Center. Through the records of the 27 credit cards the FBI has learnt that the four GPS devices probably used were bought from Sporty's Pilot Shop in Ohio. Atta also bought a number of flight simulator video games in the shop Prosecutors of Zacarias Moussaoui, who is on trial in Virginia for his alleged part in the hijackings, say that on June 25, 2000, he too visited the shop and bought a GPS receiver and flight simulation software for two types of Boeing 747s. Andy Grudko (British) - D.P.M., Grad I.S, South Africa - PSIRA investigators Reg. No. 8642 Grudko Associates - www.grudko.com , Est. 1981 International business intelligence and investigations - ICQ 146498943 (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax) SACI, WAD, CALI, SAMLF, UKPIN, AFIO (OS), IWWA, PRETrust When you need it done right - first time 5478 From: Date: Sat May 25, 2002 7:06am Subject: Military.com Content Extremist Stowaways Sneak Into US United Press International May 13, 2002 LOS ANGELES, May 13, 2002 (United Press International via COMTEX) -- The Coast Guard has reportedly determined that 25 Islamic extremists have entered the United States since late March inside cargo containers aboard commercial freighters, arriving at three major seaports. Fox News reported Monday that a May 10 Coast Guard intelligence report indicated that the stowaways made landfall in Miami, Long Beach, Calif., and Savannah, Ga. Coast Guard officials in Washington and Los Angeles had no immediate comment on the Fox report, however the Journal of Commerce said a Coast Guard captain told them that the information had not been substantiated to the degree that a higher state of alert was being instituted. Fox said that a classified briefing scheduled for Tuesday would provide law enforcement officials with details about the suspects and their possible intentions. American seaports have been considered a possible entry point for terrorists or a weapon of mass destruction ever since Sept. 11 because of the thousands of cargo containers that arrive every day from around the world. The number of containers is simply too high for Customs inspectors to check each one individually and make sure there is no contraband hidden inside. Asian smugglers frequently use containers to transport illegal Chinese immigrants into the United States. The containers are large enough to hold several individuals and enough supplies to last the approximately 10 days it takes for a ship to sail from Asia to the West Coast. The Coast Guard routinely boards and inspects several arriving commercial ships per day, giving tankers and other vessels carrying hazardous cargoes top priority. Copyright 2002 by United Press International HAVE A GREAT DAY !!! ---------- http://www.military.com/Content/MoreContent?ESRC=airforce.nl&file=FL_stow_051402 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 5479 From: Fernando Martins Date: Sat May 25, 2002 5:31am Subject: RE: X-ray machines Hi, I checked Steve's site, but used portable X-ray machines is not what I need. He's in the list, so I'll wait for those wize directions ;) Thanks FM P.S. - thus, I may know somebody that may be is interested in used Audiotel products, since the quotes from ifsec2002 audiotel stand probably aren't as good as Steve's ... They have nice catalogs, but nasty prices ;) » -----Original Message----- » From: Secdep [mailto:secdep@v...] » Sent: sábado, 25 de Maio de 2002 5:40 » To: TSCM-L; fernando.martins@e... » Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] X-ray machines » » » Fernando » » Contact Steve UHRIG, steve@s... I know he sells » portable X-Ray Machines. He should be able to point you in » the right direction. » » Raymond » » ----- Original Message ----- » From: "Fernando Martins" » To: » Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:09 PM » Subject: [TSCM-L] X-ray machines » » » > Even if a bit off topic, I hope I can get some help. » > I need references (tech info and vendors URL's) about X-ray » machines » > and metal detection portals. The use of this devices is for prisons. » > Advices about system design, and common mistakes, are also wellcome. » > » > Thanks in advance » > » > FM » > » > » > » > » > » > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to » > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ » > » > » > » > » » » 5480 From: Fernando Martins Date: Sat May 25, 2002 5:47am Subject: RE: X-ray machines http://www.heimannsystems.com/ (from Germany) <- I liked this ones, because they cover everything (product, installation, trainning, support, ...), and since they are, like me, in Europe, probably the prices are better. I may be wrong of course ... http://www.bombdetection.com/prison_security.shtml (from US) <- members of IACSP (http://www.iacsp.com/), complete support service, seems nice and expensive. Again, I may be wrong of course ... Anybody had business with any of this corps? Good/Bad experiences? FM 5481 From: Thomas Conlon Date: Sat May 25, 2002 7:47am Subject: Re: cargo ships Don't hear anything these days about the 4 that got into NJ on INS approved "shore leave" ... -tc _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 5482 From: Date: Sat May 25, 2002 0:38pm Subject: Memorial Day Have a great weekend , as we remember our fallen heroes....... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 5483 From: Robert Dyk Date: Sun May 26, 2002 8:19am Subject: RE: X-ray machines I have experience with Metor 200 walkthrough metal detection. Most systems today are designed for large weapons in order to cut down on false positives. Metor makes a 200HS system specifically designed for the prison environment where the subjects (prisoners) are all wearing the same uniform with likely little to no metal. It will detect razor blades etc. It has a vertical bank of indicators which that show the operator at what height a threat has been detected. This a very useful real world feature. Look for remote control programming, networking etc. These systems usually need at least 2 feet of free air on all sides and top in order to work to maximum sensitivity. I have experience with Rapiscan x-ray systems. They have proven fairly reliable. Look for a networked system that allows an operator to be supervised from a remote station. Rapiscan has a feature in their software that runs a training program of randomly stored bag images and then superimposes an image of a threat into the image. This training routine is very effective for new operators. Think about a dual view system that allows two image aspects of the same item to be viewed simultaneously. Remember that the x-ray image on the screen does not give you any indication of depth. The contents of a scanned image look like they have been flattened into a single layer. Depending on the orientation of the treat object within the bag to be scanned, this can mean the difference between detection and non-detection. (due to operator error or inexperience) Hope this helps Robert Dyk Worldwide Security Ltd. Mississauga, Ontario Canada This e-mail is confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee it may be unlawful for you to read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use the information in this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. 5484 From: A.Lizard Date: Sun May 26, 2002 1:59am Subject: biometrics - not ready for prime time http://www.heise.de/ct/english/02/11/114/ Body Check (c't magazine) This article shows tests of a stack of off-the-shelf consumer-level biometric ID devices using various technologies (fingerprint, retina scan, facial recognition) which demonstrate that they can be beaten by various methods that are fairly easy and using fairly common materials and computer hardware. It concludes that depending on biometrics alone without at least use of a password or other secondary ID method is a VERY BAD IDEA. A brief summary can be found at: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/25400.html Biometric sensors beaten senseless in tests A.Lizard ************************************************************************ new voicemail number,ask if you need it. 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That was a nice tip, thanks FM > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Dyk [mailto:dyk@c...] > Sent: domingo, 26 de Maio de 2002 14:20 > To: TSCM-L-yahoogroups. com > Subject: RE: [TSCM-L] X-ray machines > > > > I have experience with Metor 200 walkthrough metal detection. > Most systems today are designed for large weapons in order > to cut down on false positives. Metor makes a 200HS system > specifically designed for the prison environment where the > subjects (prisoners) are all wearing the same uniform with > likely little to no metal. It will detect razor blades etc. > It has a vertical bank of indicators which that show the > operator at what height a > threat has been detected. This a very useful real world > feature. Look for > remote control programming, networking etc. These systems > usually need at least 2 feet of free air on all sides and top > in order to work to maximum sensitivity. > > I have experience with Rapiscan x-ray systems. They have > proven fairly reliable. Look for a networked system that > allows an operator to be supervised from a remote station. > Rapiscan has a feature in their software that runs a training > program of randomly stored bag images and then superimposes > an image of a threat into the image. This training routine > is very effective for new operators. Think about a dual view > system that allows two image aspects of the same item to be > viewed simultaneously. Remember that the x-ray image on the > screen does not give you any indication of depth. The > contents of a scanned image look like they have been > flattened into a single layer. Depending on the orientation > of the treat object within the bag to be scanned, this can > mean the difference between detection and non-detection. (due > to operator error or inexperience) > > Hope this helps > > Robert Dyk > > Worldwide Security Ltd. > Mississauga, Ontario > Canada > > This e-mail is confidential and may contain privileged > information. If you are not the addressee it may be unlawful > for you to read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use > the information in this e-mail. If you are not the intended > recipient please notify us immediately. 5486 From: monty399 Date: Sun May 26, 2002 9:31pm Subject: Oscar Steve Uhrig On Tue, 21 May 2002 you message... Subject: Watchdog W-100 You talked a little about the Oscar short comings. What do you recommend instead. I just got back from Europe on a job and one of the many tools we carry is the Oscar (not the only tool). >There are a good number of simple, cheap, dangerous surveillance >devices out there used by law enforcement the Woori piece did not >detect, same as the Oscor didn't when I owned one. Just because the >salesmen do not know of them and do not design in the capability to >detect them is not an excuse for the things not working properly. >Relying on an ineffective tool well can result in a dangerous false >sense of security. And in the case of the Woori (and the Oscor too, >because I was factory trained on the thing) it's not operator >inexperience that causes the failure. It is a shortcoming in the >capability of the device. Monty 5487 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Sun May 26, 2002 11:10pm Subject: Re: Oscar The best system to hunt for bugs is a modern microwave spectrum analyzer, laboratory grade omni-directional and directional antennas, low noise high gain preamplifiers, and premium cables. The OSCOR is OK for low end sweeps where you have minimal time for the sweep, or you can not bring hundreds of pounds of equipment to the sweep. The OSCOR is also good for unskilled users, and for cases where someone with little or no technical training has to perform a limited sweep (say for example a bodyguard or PI). One the one hand you can buy an OSCOR for 15k or so, or you can spend a 100K+ for a laboratory grade microwave spectrum analyzer, antennas, amplifiers, filters, and cables. Personally I prefer both, and own several OSCORs, and numerous microwave spectrum analyzers with supporting gear. Yes, the OSCOR is not perfect, but for the money it is a fairly good deal. Now if you have a cool half million to spend on equipment that you can start looking at higher end equipment. The following page should answer some of you questions about equipment: http://www.tscm.com/TSCM102sweepgear.html -jma At 2:31 AM +0000 5/27/02, monty399 wrote: >Steve Uhrig > >On Tue, 21 May 2002 you message... >Subject: Watchdog W-100 > >You talked a little about the Oscar short comings. >What do you recommend instead. I just got back >from Europe on a job and one of the many tools we >carry is the Oscar (not the only tool). > >>There are a good number of simple, cheap, dangerous surveillance >>devices out there used by law enforcement the Woori piece did not >>detect, same as the Oscor didn't when I owned one. Just because the >>salesmen do not know of them and do not design in the capability to >>detect them is not an excuse for the things not working properly. >>Relying on an ineffective tool well can result in a dangerous false >>sense of security. And in the case of the Woori (and the Oscor too, >>because I was factory trained on the thing) it's not operator >>inexperience that causes the failure. It is a shortcoming in the >>capability of the device. > >Monty -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and The Most Complete TSCM, Bug Sweep, Spy Hunting, and Counterintelligence Site on the Internet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Ph: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island GroupFax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008mailto:jmatk@t... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "...three shall be the number to count, and the number to be counted shall be three.....four shall thou not count......five is right out". - M. Python -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5488 From: Gil Zimmerman Date: Mon May 27, 2002 6:26am Subject: RE: FBI memo re 9-11 investigation More "inside" information regarding the FBI's handling of events, courtesy of Time magazine. Coleen Rowley's Memo to FBI Director Robert Mueller An edited version of the agent's 13-page letter http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html Regards, Gil Gil Zimmerman New York City (646) 261-7378 mobile (646) 349-1485 fax --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.365 / Virus Database: 202 - Release Date: 5/24/2002 5489 From: sentinelfi Date: Mon May 27, 2002 7:37am Subject: Jamming I have made a prototype of jamming unit and I like to know what you think about it. It jamms all microphones in close range and also disturbes infrared to ultraviolet light transmissions. Against stethoscopes it contains also vibrator units. It dosen't make any audible noise, but ir-remote controllers might not work in the room. I'm trying to solve that problem. Istalling and measuring the system takes almost one day and it is not easy, but it is only prototype at this moment. Is there any future to this kind of system or not? 5490 From: Justin T. Fanning Date: Mon May 27, 2002 3:30pm Subject: Re: Jamming Ok I'll bite ... sentinelfi wrote: > I have made a prototype of jamming unit and I like to know what you > think about it. > It jamms all microphones in close range ??? I've seen consumer units operating from the AM broadcast band of 1.8 Mhz to the 2.4 Ghz ISM band. Professional units can go even higher and can have significant output, not to mention spread spectrum etc. I think you'll find such broadband "noise" is illegal in almost any civilized country. Some countries would have it illegal to even buy, sell or posses such a device. > and also disturbes infrared to ultraviolet light transmissions. You do realise that VISIBLE LIGHT is in-between infrared and ultraviolet? A lot of countries are regulating the IR/UV part of the spectrum now. > Against stethoscopes it contains also vibrator units. > It dosen't make any audible noise, but ir-remote controllers might > not work in the room. I'm trying to solve that problem. > Istalling and measuring the system takes almost one day and it is > not easy, but it is only prototype at this moment. Is there any > future to this kind of system or not? 1) It's use would be illegal almost everywhere; 2) Even it's possession could be illegal in some locations; 3) It has the potential to interfere with legitimate spectrum users; 4) It has the potential to harm the eyes/skin of close users with UV. etc etc etc Can I ask what your interest is here? If it's a science fair project it's novel, if it's a serious commercial project, I think you'll run into a wall of legal and compliance issues. JF 5491 From: Date: Mon May 27, 2002 11:55am Subject: Re: Jamming In a message dated 5/27/02 8:09:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jami.huuska@m... writes: << It jamms all microphones in close range and also disturbs infrared to ultraviolet light transmissions. Against stethoscopes it contains also vibrator units. It doesn't make any audible noise, but ir-remote controllers might not work in the room. >> I'll believe it works when you go to patent it and the government slaps a secrecy order on it. Please keep the list advised. 5492 From: buzzben Date: Mon May 27, 2002 9:12pm Subject: TDRs and SWS Security Recently I decided to purchase another TDR. Since my primary use is for twisted pair, I initially considered another Riser Bond 1205T. I contacted Steve Uhrig with SWS Security, www.swssec.com , tel: (410) 879-4035, fax: (410) 836-1190. Steve recommended a Riser Bond Model 3300, which he said was in "perfect but slightly used" condition, and at a significant savings over a new one. He also said that he favored the compact packaging, accuracy, and dual trace features of the 3300. This one also had the extended memory option. I decided to give it a try. The 3300 arrived two days later. It was in absolutely "like new" condition, and was accompanied by all factory accessories. The unit works perfectly and I am very pleased. Anyone wishing to purchase a TDR or other TSCM equipment would do well to contact Steve at SWS Security. I recommend him without hesitation. Thank you Steve. Best Regards, Buzz Benson EWS-Atlanta buzzben@m... Tel: (678) 316-7002 Fax: (706) 654-2080 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]